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[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah I agree with this take. The people who have the organizing ability and talent are already doing that, via LGB Alliance and LGB Fights Back. Straight liberals aren’t going to do shit for us and most are either apathetic or consider us as enemies. there’s a handful of straight conservatives that care but for the wrong reasons and it’s only a matter of time before they come after us again too. so all LGB across the entire political spectrum are on our own here.

[–]kwallio 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imo the vast majority of liberals are basically libertarians in actual beliefs but live in large cities and want to have friends, so they parrot whatever the going trend is and don't think too much about it. Whatever the reason, the trans trend has coopted the "whatever is trendy in lefty circles" crowd and so until a large bunch of them wake up and go "Wait you guys believe WHAT" nothing is going to change. The vast majority of them aren't LGB and don't pay attention to women's sports (or sports at all) and so trans taking over those spaces doesn't affect them at all. For the most part trans trenders go after gays when dating, so the straights don't notice.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

there’s a handful of straight conservatives that care but for the wrong reasons and it’s only a matter of time before they come after us again

See, I think if we can show them that we have things in common, that it will have an effect on some. Probably not the religious ones, but if they see we care about issues like transient children then they see we are not just one LGBTQ+ monolith.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

perhaps you are correct. i do know many non-religious conservatives who have more of a "live and let live" mentality regarding homosexuality, even if they don't like it or understand it. but these same conservatives definitely have a problem with transing children or gender ideology being taught in schools. so i think these types of conservatives we could maybe develop an understanding with, as well as conservatives who are right-leaning for economic/fiscal opinions, not social ones. it's crucial however that they see TQ+ and LGB as separate entities, which is difficult to do with liberals and TQ+ constantly meshing us together in public policy and discourse.