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[–]fuck_reddit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

“ Indeed, as with many debates over the humanity of trans people, genitals have become a battleground. In some (often toxic) online forums, many users believe that no matter how much testosterone a performer takes, no matter how hairy his chest nor how prominent his beard, he shouldn’t be in gay porn if he has a vagina.

“There is desperate need for cis gay men to hold on to the dignity that they have fought so hard for,” says Shaan Lashun, a trans man and co-founder of The Molly House Project. “And if you dare put a vagina somewhere that they have worked so hard to put all [their] penises, they see it as an attack, and like you're invalidating their rights.””

[–]Femaleisnthateful 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ugh, the strawman about the 'humanity of trans people'. No one is 'debating' that. What do these people think a gay man is? Is it about testosterone, or hairyness? How is that less superficial than gonadal sex?

Yes, you are invalidating the rights of gay men by pressuring them to have penis-in-vagina sex. What was the whole point of the gay rights movement?

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Didnt you know that being invalidated is reserved for trans only. Invalidating someone’s gender identity? Capital crime. Invalidating gay men’s sexual orientation? Acceptable and even encouraged

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the strawman about the 'humanity of trans people'. No one is 'debating' that <

But they seem to really love debating the humanity of gays and lesbians, to be honest...

[–]grixit 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A molly house was a semi secret gay men's club in England about 300 years ago. It included a lot cross dressing. I suppose all the customers are now retrotransed.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I so want to know what forums she's shading.