you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–][deleted] 47 insightful - 2 fun47 insightful - 1 fun48 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Her statements are confusing is she really implying “children will die” if they don’t play sports? Genuinely wtf happened to her lol

[–]shveya 38 insightful - 4 fun38 insightful - 3 fun39 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

It makes me wonder if she's always been crazy, or if these are side effects of rapid onset gender dysphoria.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 40 insightful - 2 fun40 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

My money's on always troubled and something sent her over the edge in the last couple of years.

[–]Shales123 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if she was being forced to transition by Hollywood or another evil force, something about the way she's acting right now seems very off, in a different way than transguys who transition voluntarily, who are usually bold and outspoken, not timid and nervous like the way Ellen is acting right now

[–]Alma_Esmeraude 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ellen Page's transition seems like a new spin of the way singers and actresses in their late 30s/early 40s have public breakdowns or go haywire from industry pressure, paparazzi stalkers, etc. With the gender zeitgeist, her breakdown is being lauded as "brave, stunning", etc.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

From what I gather she's been involved in the Social Justice end of things for at least a decade. Sooner or later the revolution always eats its own, maybe she figured that out and is literally trying to hide to protect herself.

[–]NerveActive 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

She was also victim of sexual harassment in Hollywood, abuse is a common thing that drives FtM into transitioning.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wouldn’t surprise me, which is sad. Hollywood execs have a lot of power.

[–]QueenBread 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

She's a rich actress. Nobody is forcing her to do anything. Please, let's stop with the cliché that women can't make decisions, including bad decisions, by themselves.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They can. They can also be targeted by predators who actually enjoy bringing them down. They aren't immune.

[–]QueenBread 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ellen Page is rich, adult, and famous. She wasn't "forced to transition". Women can make their own decisions, even when they're awful.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This seems to need to be explicitly stated, so: We weren't there and don't actually know what's going on with her, so repeating this statement actually doesn't make it more true. That's a rather futile tactic to take (and a very TRA tactic). Odd approach to take to dialogue on this particular sub, no?

Narcissistic abusers can reduce anyone to rubble including the rich and famous, and they love juicy targets. That is my point, which I am now repeating with more words attached so it's perfectly clear.

And not every rich, famous person is also psychologically resilient. I refer you to every performer who ever killed themselves in response to the radical reality shift forced upon them by stardom. Try having some empathy for people who are "fortunate" (in quotes, because fame has serious downsides as well sometimes) too, maybe?

Do you also ask "why did she stay" every time a woman doesn't leave her abuser? I bet not.

And that concludes my interest in this subthread.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Try having some empathy for people who are "fortunate" (in quotes, because fame has serious downsides as well sometimes)

I wanna be that "fortunate". I'll take the burden and the serious downsides of being filthy rich and world famous. It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think many of us would try to make that work, but it isn't for everyone. Which some find out the hard way.

[–]grammaroo 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

funny how she went HER ENTIRE LIFE with this "feeling" and endured it till now but everything needs to have a sense of urgency to panic everyone.