This whole idea of pulling out the victim card for this sort of thing is really very absurd. You're putting gays and lesbians in particular into the awkward position of a) rejecting their own same-sex attraction so as to not appear bigoted according to you, or b) rejecting you because you are trans and therefore not the same sex as them. Trans people are unlikely to find many gay or lesbian partners and that's simply because b) matters to the majority of people on the planet, and declaring yourself to be trans won't change that.

Exactly. I've been wondering if an effective way to defend against them is to point out that their "gender identity" is completely irrelevant to your sexual orientation, as that is based on biological sex. So whatever "trans"-ness has to do with... it's not whether LG people wanna get jiggy with the T. Apples and oranges. Might as well say that you should be attracted to blood type, or who someone believes they were in a past life. That's about as meaningful to your sexuality as genderfeelz are.

And if trans people object that ALL sexual attraction is really based on "gender"... ask them why they keep pursuing YOU guys-- those of the opposite sex-- rather than each other. They need to put their money (or junk) where their mouth is by choosing romantic/sexual partners EXCLUSIVELY by "gender identity"-- transbian with transbian, gay transman with gay transman. And leave you guys out of it. Because it's THEM preaching this it's-all-about-gender stuff, not you.