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[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[M] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

We're required to have a statement in our sidebar if we choose to NOT allow debate, and remove ourselves from s/all.

SaidIt, at it's core, is meant to be a free speech platform where all ideas and discussions can engage with one another. Pyramid of Debate and all. Admins realize that may not always be desirable, especially if or when a group wants to have a specific focus or goal in mind, and created that rule as a compromise.

One of our goals is to NOT debate TRAs anymore, been there, done that, and look where it got us and our organizations - completely overrun and LGB are blacklisted from them. They do not come to us in good faith, therefore, we do not allow them in our space. They can and do have their own spaces, and they can enjoy them and frolick freely in their misogyny and homophobia.

They don't seem to understand "leave us the fuck alone", so fine, when they harass us, they can be ousted from this sub and have no one to blame but themselves.

Although lets be real, they're still gonna REEEEE that we're transphobic regardless.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How do you not get that exact same justification was used to ban you from Reddit in the first place? My head just wants to explode. How do all of you not see this

They do not come to us in good faith, therefore, we do not allow them in our space. They can and do have their own spaces,

This could have been spoken in South Africa circa 1980.

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

TRAs ban us from their subs on-sight, and sometimes pre-emptively just due to our participation in other subs. Reddit banned us from their entire website ... we're no longer allowed to be on their platform with our views, which they call "hate speech" and "bad faith claims of discrimination".

That's not the same thing as staying in our own sub, nurturing an LGB-supportive environment, and defending it from false flags and attacks. To them, we're harassing and hateful just by existing, so we must be eradicated.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And that's all despite the fact that there is very clearly a large contingent of Reddit that agrees with our views, and despite the fact that there's material evidence of a problem of celebrating rapey behavior and outright death threats within the trans community that TRAs would love to deny exists. Reddit isn't doing content moderation to keep debate civil, it's outright just trying to shut people up. Same goes with Twitter. Women have been banned for saying females menstruate. Freedom of speech isn't a free pass for any and all speech. It would be perfectly reasonable be banned for going onto a local group for african people just to sling racial slurs at them. Moderation isn't an all-or-nothing thing. That's why moderation is hard, and why both good and bad moderation do exist.