DiscussionWhy is intersex included in the LGBTWTF+?

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[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I watched a BBC documentary made about gay people mostly from the 40's-60's in there there are interviews of old gays and lesbians.

There was a lesbian who said that around the 1950's she went to a therapist who told her she needed to have a brain surgery for being gay. This is around the time they were still calling gay people inverts and stuff.

I am 20 yrs old and I sat there shocked. So in 70 years psychologists went from saying gay people were 'inverts' of the sex so they needed their brains changed. To saying gay people are 'inverts' of the mind (boy brain in girl body), so that we need our sexes changed. Some things never change, and I am sure those psychologists were calling themselves "progressive" back then too.

I later saw a tweet that said the word "dyke" for lesbians comes from hermaphroDITE. I am not sure how true that is but I wouldnt be surprised.

[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So in 70 years psychologists went from saying gay people were 'inverts' of the sex so they needed their brains changed. To saying gay people are 'inverts' of the mind (boy brain in girl body), so that we need our sexes changed.

I LOVE how you put this. This is exactly, exactly it. I've been trying to find a short way to summarize this and you nailed it perfectly. Thank you.

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Yeah I was thinking about it for a while and will definately grab a hold of that video clip to tweet about. I will repost here, eventually when I do. I was able to watch the documentary for free on youtube in 3 parts.

That video clip was actually incredible since the lesbian in the 1950's went to a gay establishment and told an older butch lesbian about it, who then turned around, comforted her and told her it would be okay and that they are wrong. Young lesbians dont have that anymore. We have an extreme generational gap and they are being traumatized by the shit they hear in LGBT spaces.

The name of the documentary is "Its Not Unusual, A gay and lesbian history". It was released in 1997 and stars older gay people from the UK so there is no woke propaganda going on.

Edit: If you want more history too. Look up Pat Parker (a famous black American lesbian poet) poem on Billy Tipton to see what lesbians thought of "him" pretending to be a guy all his life. This was from 1989 when it was revealed he was really a woman crossdressing all of his life. The lesbians felt bad for him and she wrote a poem about him right before her death. He is a trans icon and they both died within months of each other.

I looked up the poem to see if I can find it. I couldn't find it to easily copy and paste. I have the poem screenshot on my phone so I can type it out and PM you if you want a lens to know what some older lesbian activists would have thought of the transmen in the 80's. Its a really good poem too, and I suggest if you are not busy look her up on youtube, bacause they have recordings on her poetry. She was simply amazing when it came to that stuff.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the resources!!

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then: Change the Mind to "match" the body.

Now: Change the Body to "match" the mind.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even shorter, even better :)