DiscussionWhy is intersex included in the LGBTWTF+?

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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Because TRAs think we are:

  • Hermaphrodites, and since a lot of them are into anime porn, they think that's sexy and want to fetishize us. I have often had TRAs ask me for nudes because they've "never met someone who was both."

  • Subhuman "he-shes" that they use to "prove" that nonbinary people are "valid", because hey, if we disgusting freaks exist then surely it makes sense for a random privileged teenager to say they are a they/them, am I right?

No joke, it's not just mindless inclusion, the LGBT+ is outright abusive to intersex people. They fetishize and degrade us, use our existence to justify unrelated concepts, all while supporting concepts ("sex reassignment") and laws ("legal third gender") that have been used against us. "Trans friendly" laws can actually be anti-intersex trojan horses, because if a third "other" category exists, it's NOT going to be reserved solely for "nonbinary" hipsters. It's going to be "assigned" to intersex infants with disorders, if people believe the woke thing to do is other them and treat them like aliens instead of recognizing them as male/female with a medical condition.

Oh, and trans people steal intersex spaces. All of them. The main intersex reddit is a trans propaganda hub. Private "intersex focused" Discord servers are actually trans servers in disguise. I haven't found a single intersex community that didn't quickly become full of trans people, particularly MTFs, pretending to be intersex/asking if they're intersex because they "identify as both" or are predatory and want to see pictures of intersex people's genitals. I had to start my own on Reddit, shortly before the ban waves, and even my own got trans fetishists coming in and trying to take over, turn it trans focused etc within a matter of WEEKS. It was a tiny sub, too.

I haven't met another intersex person who liked the LGBT+ treatment of intersex people. And this is why I cannot just "agree to disagree" with transgender ideology nor be friends with trans people. This ideology literally tells me I am subhuman, a fetish object, and that I'm not allowed to complain about the fact that people like me lack actual bodily rights in most countries, or that children are being given horrible cosmetic genital procedures, because trans people want to claim they have it worse when someone doesn't "validate" them. it's disgusting.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I watched a BBC documentary made about gay people mostly from the 40's-60's in there there are interviews of old gays and lesbians.

There was a lesbian who said that around the 1950's she went to a therapist who told her she needed to have a brain surgery for being gay. This is around the time they were still calling gay people inverts and stuff.

I am 20 yrs old and I sat there shocked. So in 70 years psychologists went from saying gay people were 'inverts' of the sex so they needed their brains changed. To saying gay people are 'inverts' of the mind (boy brain in girl body), so that we need our sexes changed. Some things never change, and I am sure those psychologists were calling themselves "progressive" back then too.

I later saw a tweet that said the word "dyke" for lesbians comes from hermaphroDITE. I am not sure how true that is but I wouldnt be surprised.

[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So in 70 years psychologists went from saying gay people were 'inverts' of the sex so they needed their brains changed. To saying gay people are 'inverts' of the mind (boy brain in girl body), so that we need our sexes changed.

I LOVE how you put this. This is exactly, exactly it. I've been trying to find a short way to summarize this and you nailed it perfectly. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I was thinking about it for a while and will definately grab a hold of that video clip to tweet about. I will repost here, eventually when I do. I was able to watch the documentary for free on youtube in 3 parts.

That video clip was actually incredible since the lesbian in the 1950's went to a gay establishment and told an older butch lesbian about it, who then turned around, comforted her and told her it would be okay and that they are wrong. Young lesbians dont have that anymore. We have an extreme generational gap and they are being traumatized by the shit they hear in LGBT spaces.

The name of the documentary is "Its Not Unusual, A gay and lesbian history". It was released in 1997 and stars older gay people from the UK so there is no woke propaganda going on.

Edit: If you want more history too. Look up Pat Parker (a famous black American lesbian poet) poem on Billy Tipton to see what lesbians thought of "him" pretending to be a guy all his life. This was from 1989 when it was revealed he was really a woman crossdressing all of his life. The lesbians felt bad for him and she wrote a poem about him right before her death. He is a trans icon and they both died within months of each other.

I looked up the poem to see if I can find it. I couldn't find it to easily copy and paste. I have the poem screenshot on my phone so I can type it out and PM you if you want a lens to know what some older lesbian activists would have thought of the transmen in the 80's. Its a really good poem too, and I suggest if you are not busy look her up on youtube, bacause they have recordings on her poetry. She was simply amazing when it came to that stuff.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the resources!!

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then: Change the Mind to "match" the body.

Now: Change the Body to "match" the mind.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even shorter, even better :)

[–]el-sol-duerme 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First I’m so sorry this movement uses people like you as a pawn for their self-righteous ideology. I knew a trans woman who claimed to be born intersex because her mother used some strong drugs to alter her pregnancy and make her fetus a girl. I knew then that that was not possible in the slightest. That trans woman justified her transition by calling herself intersex instead of being born and raised male. She was also not a great person to be around, ie getting aggressive after calling her out on her racist language.