Philosophy Tube is coming out as a woman. Do heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals & bisexuals in the LGBTQ movement yet?

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[–]bopomofodojo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Pretty standard Breadtube stuff. SJW leftism topics, etc. It's bland and boring, kinda like Contra and the like.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Accurate description. I'll add extremely smug and self-righteous to the mix.

[–]mvmlego 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Ah, so it's always been pretty openly political? That's disappointing for a channel called PhilsophyTube, since philosophy encompasses a lot of interesting topics that have nothing to do with politics. Also, I'd never heard the term "Breadtube" before. Thanks for the info.

[–]bopomofodojo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yep there's always a dash of the left politics in there. Don't get me wrong, I'm a diehard Marxist, but theirs is the sort of Tumblr/Twitter leftism that's trite, focuses far too much on identity politics over class issues, and generally talks about it nonstop despite doing nothing to affect the material reality of working people. Lots of "wrongthink is wrong and here's why" type finger-wagging.

Breadtube refers to the cadre of left-wing YouTubers that includes folks like Contra, PT, Vaush (if he isn't cancelled this week, IDK), and a few others around there. Some of them are less shit than others (I'm a fan of Innuendo Studios personally for instance, but not many of the others), but it's also very nebulous and is more of an external categorization. The name comes from "The Conquest of Bread" a seminal ultra-leftist/anarchist texts.

[–]mvmlego 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting. I'd classify a Marxist approach to class issues as identity politics as well, but I get your point.

The only one of those channels that I've watched before is Vaush--and only a couple of his videos. What's he possibly getting cancelled over?

[–]bopomofodojo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Proper Marxist class analysis is not identity politics. That's precisely the differentiator between "identity" politics (politics centering personal identities and innate personal qualities) and Marxist class politics (politics centering class relationships, i.e. working- versus ownership-classes). And it's somewhere that predominately-Western leftists have completely lost the plot, starting at least as far back as the 1960's. To put the distinction another way - class politics is about what's real (the real relations between people and property, for instance), while identity politics is about what's in people's heads (their personal notions of identity). IMO, at least coming at it from a left perspective, it's really important not to lump these together like so many damn "leftists" do. And there is of course a lot of grey area (LGB rights being a notable one because there is a lot of overlap), but the TRA narrative always focuses on identity (i.e. "in the head") politics because that's the only place it can possibly exist. I don't know your politics, but I think there's a very large contingent of people who think "Idpol -> Marxism -> Leftism" is the only way, because so many online leftists consider that the truth. But it's certainly not the only interpretation, and because identity-based politics focuses on the small minutiae of identity vs. the very broad applicability of class, it's one that's actually counter-productive to actual material benefits for working people and one that helps the ownership class. As an example, think of all the resources directed to helping "trans women of colour" that would actually help everybody if implemented universally, but because of the ideological fracturing of identities, the focus is always on oppression olympics and small marginal gains for some identity classes at the expense of others.

As for Vaush, I just know he's a... controversial figure among terminally-online leftists, they tend to love his content sometimes, but then he'll say or do something "problematic" and he gets "cancelled" for a week and then it goes back to normal. My own sanity is too fragile to actually follow that nonsense in any depth.