LGB ErasureTRA unmasks their homophobia upon me questioning their argument against homosexuality being a mental illness, refers to homosexuality as a ‘mismatch between biological sex and sexual attraction.’

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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

While I think many of them know better that their comparisons to homosexuality (and bisexuality) are inapposite, I do think there’s a sizable number who just don’t get it because they define us only by stigma (at best, kinda like how they lump every non-white person into one group defined by lack of whiteness) and are so narcissistic that they cannot see anyone else existing for any purpose other than to prop them up.

What creeps me out are the most fetishistic AGP and gaytrending transbois because they must have some awareness that their motivations are erotic in nature and connected to sexual gratification. And I don’t know which category they fall into. I think on some level they think we are perverted sexual deviants who think of the “sexual” in “sexual orientation” to refer to eroticism not the biological sex(es) we are attracted to relative to our own sex. Hence this new terrible “sexual identity” language which lumps us in with fetishists. And I find this patently offensive.

And you have to be pretty deluded to not see the difference between “Accept us for what we are” and “Accept us for what we are clearly not but wish we were. Or else.” The misappropriated conversion therapy rhetoric is one of the most insidious parts of this movement.

[–]reluctant_commenter 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do think there’s a sizable number who just don’t get it because they define us only by stigma

I think so, too. Such people likely have little experience with actually being LGB, because they are not same-sex-attracted themselves and/or because many of those in the "queer community" who they might believe are LGB are actually people who aren't, either.

I think on some level they think we are perverted sexual deviants who think of the “sexual” in “sexual orientation” to refer to eroticism not the biological sex(es) we are attracted to relative to our own sex. Hence this new terrible “sexual identity” language which lumps us in with fetishists. And I find this patently offensive.

Yeah. This is part of why I do not want to come out. Most people these days are like "Oh, you're gay/lesbian/bisexual? You must be part of the queer community!" Yeah, no. I am not and I refuse to be a meatshield for people who treat sexual orientation like it's a fun choice, a perverted choice, or any kind of choice.

[–]8bitgay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they define us only by stigma (at best, kinda like how they lump every non-white person into one group defined by lack of whiteness)

And even that is contradictory. I mean, do they really believe there's a huge stigma against demisexuals? Or do they believe a "queer" couple (that is actually just a regular straight couple) was ever stigmatized? In one hand they try to lump us together because of stigma, but on other hand they get mad if you point out that queer+ groups simply don't go through the same struggles.