Boys TWICE as likely as girls 'to be bullied about sexual orientation'

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[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

unless you were also operating under the hidden premise that people aren't responsible for solving problems that they didn't cause.

Yes, I believe this. People, males or females, should take responsabilities for their own actions. People who have no fault shouldn't have to be constantly "covering up" the mess someone else did.

What I mean is that men should start being aware from at a young age to be more aware of their actions, or things simply won't get better. Everyone knows that most physical harrassment towards gay men are from (straight) males. And it should be MEN calling out other MEN and giving the example. And I say the same with females. Women present no physical danger to males whatsoever even if they wished to do harm to gay men. Look at these FTM's. They do harrass gay men, yes. And yes, they should be called out for it. But do they really present some kind of physical threat the same way MTF present to lesbians? Hell no. Gay men usualy laugh at their faces and tell them to fuck off. Women are no physical threat to men.

[–]mvmlego 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, I believe this. People, males or females, should take responsabilities for their own actions. People who have no fault shouldn't have to be constantly "covering up" the mess someone else did.

In that case, my second point was appropriate: if a staff member's only responsibility is to do no net harm, then there would be no reason to employ them in the first place, so of course part of their job is to solve problems that they didn't cause. There's no reason this shouldn't include problems that are ostensibly caused by members of the opposite sex.

Regardless, you still haven't properly addressed the first point: how are the male faculty, guidance counselors, administrators, fathers of the bullies, and fathers of the victims categorically more responsible for boys heteronormatively bullying boys than the female faculty, guidance counselors, administrators, mothers of the bullies, and mothers of the victims are? You keep changing the subject to men harassing other men, but that's not what the article, the study, or the Saidit post are about; they're about boys bullying other boys--and the male adults in those boys' lives didn't necessarily cause the bullying any more so than the female adults in those boys' lives caused it.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Because it's important for young boys to have good men roles while growing up. Simple as that. And the same goes for women. Education from a young age, men need to be more present. Unfortunately, in many cases, it's still the women who does lots of the work.

And now, considering the example of a school's staff. I definitely think it should be the male staff members to handle male bullies and female staff members to handle female bullies. So schools should have in my opinion, staff from both sexes.

[–]mvmlego 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even though I think you're overestimating the importance of role models (and specifically role models of the same sex) in determining a child's behavior, I see your point now. Thanks for the clarification.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're entitled to your own opinion, of course. But truth is that I see lots of adult males occasionaly behaving in a totally inappropriate way around kids/children and I can see how children, in particular boys, would imitate or assimilate those behaviours of male counterparts and think "it's cool". I'm pretty sure that if adult males behaved more decently and showed good ways of behaving, boys would grow up to be much more responsible and not expect women (like their girlfriends, for example) to take care of their problems and be their "mommies". Because this is the still the reality in many houses, unfortunately.