DiscussionWhat does Gender Critical mean?

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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah, if we stick 100% to the above definition, I think we're all 'gender critical' here.

Several years ago, when I read the definition and rushed over to join all the gender critical subs on Reddit, I was really confused. I'd been all ready and eager to gather round and circle-jerk about how we all hate forced gender roles and how 'pink is for girls/blue is for boys' type nonsense is both ridiculous and harmful, but instead, nobody wanted to talk about that stuff at all! The main topic was anti-trans... Which is... Okay, yeah, fine... But then also 'All men are scum' which is... Um... fine... okay... I guess I can just skip those posts... But then also 'Let's shit on all these other types of women who aren't as radically feminist as we are!' which is... well... I didn't sign up for any of this, really... Like there'd be people raging on there about how women are gender-traitors for putting on lipstick or shaving their armpits. And I get it (if you want me to explain it's going to be long and annoying) but what they didn't want to get is that WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY and sometimes, some women need to conform to some degrading shit in order to eat food and live indoors and not fucking die. And some women actually enjoy that stuff. You can't just sit around judging everybody all day long and demanding that the reality we actually live in magically turn into the feminist utopia you wish you could live in.

These women are basically the feminist equivalent of the type of trans identified men who screech 'suck my girldick!' They are living in a delusion and ruining everything for the rest of us.

[–]censorshipment 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

Calling out women who aren't feminists, who are anti-feminists, or who are liberal feminists is far more important than talking about gender roles 24/7. Women of the patriarchy need to be "dragged for filth". GC mods (on Reddit and likely on Saidit) considered that misogynistic though. I'm a "man-hating" lesbian, and I tend to avoid men both irl and online, so the majority of TRAs I come across are women, and they need to be called out for enforcing bullshit.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh absolutely! I just wanted the 'gender critical' sub to be about only gender critical stuff, and for 'man-hating' and 'calling out handmaidens of the patriarchy' and also the anti-trans posts to be on some other sub. It was annoying that there was basically no 'literally criticizing gender' posts at all on the sub literally called 'gender critical,' I think mainly because by the time I found it, the movement had evolved to the point where those women had had the conversations I wanted to have so many times, and they'd moved on to the what you're talking about in your comment. And also because the trans and gender people were acting out so much by that point that they were sucking up all the attention.

BTW? Is there a good sub on here to join about dragging handmaidens?

[–]ColoredTwice 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

On Ovarit they have more strict rules about topics in subs, so GC is about abolishing gender in general, but because trans movement is so agressive and active - most topics are still about it.

[–]nuhuhno 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

s/Pinkpillfeminism

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But then also 'All men are scum' which is... Um... fine... okay... I guess I can just skip those posts... But then also 'Let's shit on all these other types of women who aren't as radically feminist as we are!' which is... well... I didn't sign up for any of this, really... Like there'd be people raging on there about how women are gender-traitors for putting on lipstick or shaving their armpits

This is pretty much why, even though I label my views as gender critical, I just can't associate with the GC crowd on Reddit or even here. So many radfems/gender critical types are just as pathetic as the TRA's and ones who aren't are so busy stringing together excuses for why each other's hatred is fine and justified, the toxic attitudes are never called out.