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[–]EzukiRaen 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not sure of other groups that are like this. However, I must say, the archived link was both a nice change of pace and slightly infuriating.

One of the people who was arguing for the "trans women are women/ transmen are men" side said:

"Homosexuality: someone attracted to the same gender. Heterosexuality: someone attracted to the opposite gender. Gender=/= sex"

How on Earth is this person able to understand the difference between gender and sex yet, they can't possibly understand the existance of sexual attraction; even though both words literally end in "-sexuality" and not "-gender"? They have no respect for anyone's sexual orientation but, they want the world to respect their gender attraction (whatever that means). If they're so convinced that attraction to gender is more important than sexual attraction, then why don't they make up their own words? It shouldn't be hard for them; they've made up so many other words already. They can put in some effort to make up something that specifically describes "gender attraction". Is it really so hard to coin something like "homogenderality" and/or "heterogenderality" and leave the rest of us, and our sexual orientations, alone?

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One of the people who was arguing for the "trans women are women/ transmen are men" side said:

"Homosexuality: someone attracted to the same gender. Heterosexuality: someone attracted to the opposite gender. Gender=/= sex"

Well, THAT'S alarming. I guess the question is: how do they define "sex"? Apparently it's not the basis for sexual attraction, AND it's also not the same as gender, so... just what the hell is it, then? Or maybe I'm better off not knowing... :(

If they're so convinced that attraction to gender is more important than sexual attraction, then why don't they make up their own words? It shouldn't be hard for them; they've made up so many other words already. They can put in some effort to make up something that specifically describes "gender attraction". Is it really so hard to coin something like "homogenderality" and/or "heterogenderality" and leave the rest of us, and our sexual orientations, alone?

That's a good way to put it. I suspect they won't leave us, and especially our sexual orientations, alone because we're living proof that their beloved "genderism" is nonsense. Because what's the basis for being LGB in the first place? Biological sex. Our own + that of those to whom we're attracted. "Gender" has sweet fuck-all to do with it. And they just cannot STAND this. That's not how it's supposed to be! According to the rules they made up in their head! Why can't we just GET WITH THE PROGRAM??? So they keep hounding us to agree that this is how our sexuality works after all, oh yuppers, it's GENDER and nothing but! Don't know how that slipped our minds! Must've been having a collective senior moment LOL!

So it's not enough to have "gender attraction" as an alternative to "sexual attraction". They insist that it REPLACE sexual attraction. Become the way that humans are wired now... well, unless you're "trans", of course! (Cuz Muh DysphoriaTM ... somehow.)

I also wonder how much of this gender-crusade is due to all the (unacknowledged) fetishists in their ranks. Specifically the kind who fetishize a gender-role (most often the female one, which is where we get-- ugh-- "transbians") itself. So THEIR sexuality kind of does run on "gender"... in the same way that a foot-fetishist's runs (ahem) on feet. Maybe this makes them think that everyone's does? That we ALL confuse the phony symbols of biological sex with the real thing? Especially since, if they realized what was actually going on, it might make them feel... like big ol' creeps? And/or it's a case of misery loves company? (Due to the aformentioned creepiness, and perhaps the fact that gender-based desire is a theory which doesn't work any too well for THEM, either.)

But whatever is going on with the gender crowd, I just want 'em to keep their drivel to themselves.

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Thanks for that. My spell in the gulag memorizing the 1000 and 1 different gender attraction words is going to be time well spent.