DiscussionU.S. - Democratic wins in 2 Georgia Senate races, and what that means for LGB rights

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[–]cure_osa_disorder 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

I would gladly support a gay fascist at this point. If anyone has earned the right to tell everyone else what to do and when to do it, it's a gay man.

but try and convince gay Democrats who are sane to fix the Democratic Party as well.

They don't fucking exist. The only sane gays are Gay Republicans. In fact, you don't even deserve to be gay unless you are a Republican.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

They don't fucking exist.

We do. I’m not at all thrilled about the Democrats right now and their willingness to cater to identity-obsessed lunatics, but I have even more issues with Trump and the Republicans. I’d rather see both parties burn to the ground right now and start over without this two-party nightmare system (shouldn’t we be breaking THIS binary 😂?).

[–]cure_osa_disorder 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Trump and the GOP are the last line of defense against it. Behavior that is rewarded will be repeated. Continuing to vote for the slave party is continuing to vote for the erasure of homosexuality. A third party that supports the tr-ns would just be more of the same.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Clearly we don’t see eye-to-eye, but you do you, boo. I haven’t seen Trump and the Republicans stand up to identity politics or religious, cult-like ideology. They operate on their own brand of it. And when it comes to gender ideology, they’ve been sitting on a golden goose but mostly quiet about it. Why haven’t they played that card and forced there to be public discussion about it?

[–]cure_osa_disorder 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The fact that Trump seems to be able to tell the difference speaks volumes. The tr-ns military ban made it difficult to dislike him. Members of the GOP who turned their backs on him deserve no respect. I agree that a pro-LGB anti-T platform could make the GOP unstoppable. But the alternatives all support the T in one way or another so I have no other choice, I'm afraid.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Trump and the GOP are the last line of defense against it.

They aren't against the T because it threatens to destroy homosexuality; they're against the T because they mistakenly think that it is homosexuality. Since of course men with "ladyfeelz" = SUPER-GAY. And who makes up the Republican base? Reactionary (often fundamentalist) evangelicals. You know: the ones who brought us an obsession with Leviticus 18:22, "god made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", and "conversion therapy." Not that Trump himself believes in any of this, I'm sure, but since he's shown time and again how happy he is to cater to those who do... what difference does it make?

Also, you know how the T are all about "gender"? Well, so is the GOP. Adherence to, and enforcement of, old-fashioned sex-roles is at the party's heart. They just don't like the T version because, due to its diverging from the traditional model in a few respects (being chosen by the individual rather than socially-imposed based on sex), they mistake it for a rejection of gender. And assume that the T is rebelling against their sacred pink-is-for-girls/blue-is-for-boys bullshit. But as long as they oppose the T based on this misperception, who cares, right?

Well... what about if the Republicans realize that they and the T are on the same page? That "born-in-the-wrong-body-ism" can be the NEW! IMPROVED! "conversion therapy"? That, far from being SUPER GAY OMG, "trans" is in fact homophobic AF... even to the point of having the potential to eradicate homosexuality altogether?

Yeah, I know that (like most of us here) you understandably feel backed into a political corner; I can see this from your POV. But I suggest that you try seeing it from the GOP's. Which seems to have a lot more in common with your adversary's than your own.

[–]cure_osa_disorder 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're projecting the Slave Party's attitude towards human sexuality onto the GOP. Literally everything you have posted is speculative at best or outright dishonest at worst. I have never seen the GOP come out and support the T for any reason. In fact, it is very much the reason for their refusal to support gay rights: the people pushing it are the same ones who ultimately stabbed gays in the back so why should anyone trust them? Bottom line, you have gay and lesbian blood on your hands if you support any other political party. Even the glibertARYANS are T-enablers. The Slave Party is a communist terrorist party and their support of T is sexual terrorism. You don't deserve to be gay if you support it. The only valid criticism of the GOP is that those within it who betrayed Trump have literally enabled the destruction of this country and everything it stands for along with it.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I’d rather see both parties burn to the ground right now and start over without this two-party nightmare system (shouldn’t we be breaking THIS binary 😂?).

Yeah, maybe if we just pointed all the gender identity ideologists in the direction of the two-party system then maybe we'd see meaningful change!

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

My ideal prime minister, regardless of his sexual orientation, would be Ireland first. He’d ban illegal immigration, deport criminals who are not Irish, ban dual citizens from voting or running in elections, increase the strength of our military and introduce compulsory military training for all able bodied citizens, hang drug traffickers and human traffickers, repeal the Gender Recognition Act of 2015, abolish the TV licence, reform our laws on insurance and lawsuits, make our civil service more efficient by sacking two thirds of the pencil pushers, align ourselves with the Visegrad Countries and stand up to the European Union.

In fact, you don't even deserve to be gay unless you are a Republican.

I disagree. Some gays who aren’t Democrats don’t vote or vote for third parties. There were gay people who supported Tulsi Gabbard, who wasn’t perfect but was at least anti-war.

[–]cure_osa_disorder 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I am pro-war as long as the nations we declare war on are anti-gay and anti-Jewish. Basically if they hate all the same people Hitler hated, then I'm for war with them. That's how the Just War theory works.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

War should only be for self defence. What they do in countries like Iran is horrific and disgusting, so fuck Iran. But that doesn’t mean tens of thousands of people in their 20’s or 30’s from countries like America should die just so that people in Iran can be free. Just give refugee status to gay people living in those countries. War leads to death and destruction, and costs taxpayers money money.