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[–]8bitgay 33 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

No, you don't have to justify your reasons, but if your reasons could be bigoted, you may want to take the time to unpack them.

I wonder if they realize how gaslighting they are. You can't say "you don't need to justify your reasons" and then go on to say how your reasons are bad and you have to unpack them.

If you are excluding an entire group of people, based solely on their membership in that group, you are bigoted. Reasons matter.

If not dating someone actually means being bigoted, then what you're doing is just making the word "bigoted" lighter. Also come on, this person is all over the thread claiming that preferences are bad and people's reasons are bad, but then they go to say "you don't have to justify your reasons".

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 34 insightful - 11 fun34 insightful - 10 fun35 insightful - 11 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously, f*** this TRA; Their statements are a contradictory mess.

"you don't have to justify your reasons"

"reasons matter"

"unpack them"

"bigoted"

"bigoted"

No, I'd prefer to keep my potentially bigoted reasons neatly packed with lots of tape and shelved in the basement in the section labeled: None of your damn business. That'll be just fine.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Another thing they don't consider is that if the person is indeed bigoted or transphobic, why the fuck would they want to date them anyway? It would be like immigrants actively wanting to date someone who is xenophobic, even after finding our that the person isn't interested in them. It makes no logical sense.

[–]8bitgay 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've made that point about dating preferences (not just trans people). If a gay guy isn't into fat guys, do you really wanna be the fat guy that dates him knowing he's forcing himself to try to be with you? I know that I would rather be rejected than to find out someone's dating me just because he was peer pressured into it.

But whenever people are confronted with these points they'll often go the incel way. As in, they start saying stuff like "we don't want to date you anyway!". Ah, yeah, you made a long argument about how cis men need to date transmen, but transmen aren't interested at all in dating cis men, sure...