It’s like they almost get it

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[–]HelloMomo 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Say what you will about ContraPoints. But that video about how what people find cringey in others often correlates to what they're insecure about in themselves? That was spot-on.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How's the saying go... "I can spot a splinter in your eye but not a log in mine"? I find Contrapoints videos kind of fascinating because there are some solid pieces of truth and logic in many of them, but also some HUGE glaring omissions that speak volumes... have you seen his video talking about AGP? That one's a wild ride.

[–]HelloMomo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I find Contrapoints videos kind of fascinating because there are some solid pieces of truth and logic in many of them, but also some HUGE glaring omissions that speak volumes...

Same. I'm still subscribed to him, because I don't want to put myself in an echo chamber. But I haven't watched his most recent few videos. The more redpilled (for lack of a better term) that I get, the harder I find it to set that aside for long enough to watch a video.

But also, I feel like I am getting a bit... weird about trans stuff. For lack of a better word, triggered. Like I could watch a youtube video of a flat earther talking about flat earth, and be interested and amused and not upset by it at all. And yeah, part of this is because transgenderism is fundamentally sexist, whereas flat earth is merely wacky. (Not all anti-science beliefs are equal. Likewise, I don't think I could sit through an anti-vaxxer video without getting angry.)

But I think another part of it is that I've gotten really touchy about this subject, in a way that I'd rather not be. Like at work, there's this big poster, about various worker rights, sick leave and vacation and pregnancy and whistleblowers and such. One little heading is about transgender rights in the workplace, and I bristle every time I see it. And really, there's no call for that. I'd like to just chill out about that, if I knew how.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Flat earth believers are not changing laws and not hurting children, not cancelling people and not putting people in prison for disagreement with them, Amnesty not calling to silence scientists and women who believe in non-flat earth, thought.

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But also, I feel like I am getting a bit... weird about trans stuff. For lack of a better word, triggered. Like I could watch a youtube video of a flat earther talking about flat earth, and be interested and amused and not upset by it at all. And yeah, part of this is because transgenderism is fundamentally sexist, whereas flat earth is merely wacky. (Not all anti-science beliefs are equal. Likewise, I don't think I could sit through an anti-vaxxer video without getting angry.)

But I think another part of it is that I've gotten really touchy about this subject, in a way that I'd rather not be. Like at work, there's this big poster, about various worker rights, sick leave and vacation and pregnancy and whistleblowers and such. One little heading is about transgender rights in the workplace, and I bristle every time I see it. And really, there's no call for that. I'd like to just chill out about that, if I knew how.

Dude-- I totally relate!! I'm so glad you mentioned that. When I was in the dark, it was so much easier to just not have to think about any of this. Now that I know so much more about the transing of children, rampant homophobia and sexism, I just look at all my far-left friends in such a different light... I just, it's so hard not to be cynical. I am hopeful about the future in terms of progress, e.g. news like the Keira Bell victory, but my god, I'm just so disappointed in all the people I know who have just fallen for this thing, completely... workplaces and friends and everything. This is actually kind of the first time I've really thought about it lol, so thank you for your comment. I'm so mixed because I would also love to just "chill out" and not stress about it, but.. this stuff going on IS heart-breaking and infuriating and frustrating, and it's so crazy to see it insinuate itself everywhere!

Some guy at my work was like, when there was an email chain going about wellness-related topics we could bring up at an upcoming meeting, "people never talk about trans rights enough!" and internally I was like oh my fucking god... trans rights are literally ALL OVER the media and the "trans rights" movement is causing unethical medical experimentation on millions of children and mentally ill people that is actively censored from mainstream media. Are you JOKING? And then I feel guilty for having such a strong reaction to a single comment.

Anyway. Point being, I relate.

[–]HelloMomo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think the 2 biggest things to keep in mind:

  1. Most people just literally don't know. They're simply ignorant of the issue.
  2. With straight people specifically, I think some of them need to be "given permission" to oppose trans ideology. It's all riding on the back of the gay rights movement. They don't want to be homophobic, so they can't oppose it, even if it seems a bit off to them. I think the #1 most important thing the LGB Alliance might do is show the public that many gays and bisexuals oppose this. And that might then give straights permission to oppose it too.

Remembering this helps me be empathetic. Most of them are just normies.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those are good points, thanks. Especially the 2nd one-- I actually hadn't thought about it that way at all. Even though, back when I thought I was straight, I thought I couldn't have any opinions on LGB-related or trans-related issues. People just don't want to be "bad" people, I guess.