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[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 50 insightful - 1 fun50 insightful - 0 fun51 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Sorry to quote another terf, I swear I don’t like them, but “it’s our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities”.

So, this genius, brilliant, intellectual lady call herself cisbian. Recognize that “terfs” are reasonable, given that she quote us, but still turn her back to us even though she clearly understand our concerns, she even has the same concerns. And she still, consciously, chooses to participate in our vilification just because she’s afraid of being seen as “the bad not cool witch“. Ugh so depressing seeing people going against their own interests just out of weakness. Please, STAND UP FOR YOURSELF. I hate female socialization so bad, I can’t even..

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I hate those type of weak women.

[–]reluctant_commenter 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Hey, let's be fair here-- women are heavily pressured to submit to men in societies all over the world, and we're heavily punished if we don't. I'm disappointed in this person's actions, too, but I don't know if it's fair to call her "weak".

She is, however, contributing to homophobia by suggesting that people can "opt in" to being lesbian:

and if I want to only date women and effectively be lesbian I can. I won’t end up with a guy if I choose not to, even if I crush on one

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It still annoys me. Maybe because I'm a strong woman. My mother is a very weak woman and I can't stand it, because if I'm able to be strong, then other women can be too.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My mother is a very weak woman and I can't stand it, because if I'm able to be strong, then other women can be too.

I guess my inclination is to wonder whether there might be something holding those other women back. Perhaps my perspective is biased because of my upbringing, though-- I was grew up heavily brainwashed into believing "proper" feminine behavior was literally my only option, e.g. not speaking up, being a peacemaking/harmonious individual with no problems of her own, etc. It took years before I even realized that there were other ways to live my life. I am glad you're well aware it doesn't have to be that way, though. :)

[–]Lessom 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We need stop excusing these women contribution to misogyny and homophobia and hold them accountable.

I agree in many societies women are oppressed but the ones screaming TERF and saying a lot of the lesbophobic things are mainly westerners. They have no backbone and would rather support straight man in a dress fetishising lesbians over other women.

If they are scared then they should remain neutral but to make an active stand against your fellow women/lesbians is weak in my opinion.

[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

to make an active stand against your fellow women/lesbians is weak in my opinion.

I agree, that's a weak action. I'd still be concerned about perpetuating the "women are weak" stereotype, and I think it also trivializes the issue to just brush this person off as "weak" when they could also be: manipulative, uncaring, trying to use a label for brownie points, etc.