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[–]fuck_reddit 31 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 3 fun32 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

"We just want to live our truth and not be harassed or harmed!!!111!" proceeds to go online and categorically deny objective reality, endlessly harass people online for their identity, and threaten physical harm to anyone that objects...

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

They’re the prime example of the inmates running the asylum. I will never understand how a group of such obviously mentally ill narcissists have gotten to where they are. I’m really curious about how we look back on all of this in a few years.

[–]fuck_reddit 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I think it's because various social movements that were saying "we would like to be moved from the social paria category into the socially acceptable category" were slowly hijacked and became "any rejection of anything is evil." IMO a society has to reject certain things to maintain itself (especially regarding abuse). Trans activists are riding the coat tails of a broader inability of society to determine what is and isn't acceptable.

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That makes complete sense. I think most people who support them just think they’re supporting their right to be safe and live their lives, I don’t think they really know what’s going on or what tras are really pushing for. I also think a lot of people go along with them because to speak out against them (not them existing, but what they advocate for) means you’re automatically branded as a hateful bigot who hates them for being trans. It’s all just riding coattails and manipulation. I’m really hoping it collapses in on itself when they push too far.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This easily seen on UK polls. When poll asking if transwomen should be allowed to women spaces - majority is saying yes. When poll asking if transwomen with penises should be allowed to women spaces - even bigger majority is saying no.

People just not realize that 5 years ago only 12% of transwomen did not had penises. And nowadays only 5-6%.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Do you have a source for the statistics on how many transwomen have have had their penises surgically altered now and before?

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I had a source about 2015 year, not sure I will be able to find it again (that will take long digging in browsing history - it was big poll made by transgender organisation, where only 12% said they had surgery, 34% more said they may do surgery, and rest said they either never will or maybe will but in many years from now), and then it was only estimation about 2019 year, as transwomen quantity raised exponentially, but surgeries done raised only by few percents (so it mathematically it was going to around levels I've said).

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks! I've found that this is really important information in peaking people because it completely changes their perception of who a "transwoman" is. Everyone things that they have or plan to "fully transition."

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most funny thing is that it was done by transgenders themselves and was posted to me by transgender to support their position, and instead it is literally harming them.

Same as this their site, which only speaks against their claims: https://transrespect.org/en/map/trans-murder-monitoring/?submap=tmm_2020

UK were mourning at Transgender Rememberence Day, when 0 transgenders were killed in whole year in UK, yet during lockdown 3 women are killed every week from domestic violence, which is almost 5 times increase from last year. Yet there no Women Rememberence Day. And event that was about mourning victims of male feminicide in France - was vandalized by transwomen.

[–]Eurowoman24 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes I believe that was in Paris. There's zero reports of trans people being killed in France whereas women murdered due to domestic violence in 2019 is 149, for men 27.

[–]fuck_reddit 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I hope it collapses in on itself too. I agree that most TRA's buy into the belief that "trans people are literally being murdered on the street." Biden the other day tweeted about forty something trans people being killed so far in 2020. It's a lot on it's own... but it completely ignores the size of the U.S. In 2016, 49 gay men were killed in four hours at Pulse. In Chicago, 60 people can be shot in a weekend. In a country of 320 million people, having a crime tally in the double digits is amazing, but most people don't realize that and are deceived by scary numbers.

[–]artetolife 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also ignores that very few trans people are murdered simply for being trans. The motives are usually the same for any murder - jilted lovers, revenge, robberies gone wrong, etc. Pretending every one is a hate crime is just dishonest.

[–]our_team_is_winning 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Did Big Pharma fund half his campaign or something? What is with the Biden Transgender propaganda?

[–]CheesyPeas 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

His dead son Beau was friendly with lots of trans people.

Hence Sarah McBride getting that appointment. They were friends with Beau.

Joe is desperately clinging to memories of his son.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It helps them that they are the most profitable "civil rights movement" ever. I mean companies realized they could put rainbows on everything and sell us merch, but literally every aspect of a trans person's daily existence is something that makes a whole slew of other people money.