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[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

All my friends are genderspecials or genderspecials sympathizers. I was interrogated by my close friend the other week because she was concerned because sometimes I have a "conservative view of gender" aka I think women and homosexuality are a real phenomenon. I come here for relief.

I said that I don't agree with every notion of gender theory (since like new and contradictory ones come out every week) and she (they, sorry) said that's not ok for me as a cis person. Essentially that because I'm cis I'm not allowed to think critically and come to my own conclusions, I need to just accept it all without thought. This was in response to me saying that there are even trans people who are critical of some of the rhetoric. Ok for them, not for me bc cis.

Op where do you live?

[–]FrostyNugsI'm allergic to nuts[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Essentially that because I'm cis I'm not allowed to think critically and come to my own conclusions, I need to just accept it all without thought.

Questioning the indoctrination is not allowed. You are not allowed to think unless you're at a certain place in the hierarchy. It's so obviously a cult lmao. Just say you're commonsensegender and get that instant gender cred. You have my deepest sympathies for having begendered friends, though. Most of my friend group is woke people who I fully expect to turn some form of genderspecial in the next year or two.

I'm in the US, where gender ideology has gotten ahold of even otherwise normal heterosexuals and made them insufferable. I don't really know how bad it is in most other countries, but from what I hear the situation in America is still better than in a lot of other western nations because we can't get arrested or fined for "hate speech" when we question gender theory. Yet. Lots of self-proclaimed liberals think would be a fine and dandy idea to police and censor speech as long as that speech might slightly hurt someone's feelings.

[–]Kai_Decadence 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lots of self-proclaimed liberals think would be a fine and dandy idea to police and censor speech as long as that speech might slightly hurt someone's feelings.

Yep and they even call us "Conservative" if we don't buy into the ideology even if most of our other views tend to be more on the left side of the political leaning like universal healthcare.

[–]luckystar 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's a simple solution to that little problem. Explain you're not cis. Because in all likelihood, you're not -- Do you 100% of the time identify with all the social roles, behaviors, appearance, etc of your birth sex? If not, congrats, you're not cis! I think the actual % of the population that is "cis" is actually tiny, it's just that most of us don't sit around with our thumbs up our asses thinking about how special our ~relationship with gender~ is. Agender or non binary more accurately fits the average person who isn't literally a Barbie Doll or G.I. Joe.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Big agree with it. I was always confused by cis definition because I never wanted to become the opposite sex but I'm not attached to the one I was born as either. Intuitively I always thought that only trans people experience something like gender identity and it's a disorder to feel it... not something actually normative. People don't think of themselves through gender lenses. Most of us are agender.

[–]Kai_Decadence 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is such a gross attitude to have that to these "genderspecials" (love it lol), we can't even think for ourselves. See they laugh when some of us say that their attitude and authoritarian mindset is akin to that of George Orwell's "1984" "2+2 = 5" rhetoric. The whole "Cis" along with "TERF" thing is just a way to silence those of us sane people who don't buy into their nonsense ideology. You said it yourself, they come out with new theories every other month and they are just as insipid and contradictory as the last.

Just know we're all here for you here. This is the place where so many of us just come to remember that we're not going crazy haha.

[–]windrunner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

said that's not ok for me as a cis person. Essentially that because I'm cis I'm not allowed to think critically and come to my own conclusions, I need to just accept it all without thought.

lmao the NERVE i just can't