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[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 59 insightful - 5 fun59 insightful - 4 fun60 insightful - 5 fun -  (20 children)

Someone with TikTok should connect with her, calm her down and help her to understand that this is just plain homophobia. Those TRA are literally same people who were beating homosexuals 50 years ago, or maybe even worse. And question like "Do you hurt them, or do they hurt you?" should make her realize what is happening too. No need for political help, just human help.

Nowadays TQ+ not just have different goals and unrelated approaches with LGB, but TQ+ are actively trying to destroy LGB. Long time since homophobia on west was so agressive and huge.

Edit: in answers to that tweet, there her other videos, and screens of homophobic bullies with "to stop harassment you need to sleep with transbian with penis, or we will not believe you are sincere apologizing". And of course they will not stop bullying no matter what. And more weakness you show, the stronger they will attack. It is like with Terrorists - no negotiations. In our country our president recently fullfilled wish of one terrorist who took hostages. And you know what? Now almost daily new someone is trying to take hostages and ask something for themselves.

[–]Smolders1Cock is god's greatest gift. 42 insightful - 3 fun42 insightful - 2 fun43 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

Heard that she's already apologised and made a video of her sobbing due to all of the harassment. She's unfortunately already given in.

So sad to see young lesbians and other women being told their sexuality is not considered 'inclusive' and that they must conform in order to not be transphobic.

[–]Gearbeta[S] 39 insightful - 6 fun39 insightful - 5 fun40 insightful - 6 fun -  (10 children)

For now at least. I've seen this happen in other cases where they start off like this saying they're not TERFs, why are TERFs supporting me i'm not one of you, and then they pop up a year later like "yeah i peaked."

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 28 insightful - 4 fun28 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Help should not come in a way "hello, I am terf, and they all wrong and shit". It should be just supportive "you aren't wrong, I am with you, don't be sad please, it is fine to not like dick, I am lesbian like you [if you are one of cource], don't afraid of homophobes, it is same like 30 years ago, if all they can give hate, then don't give them back your love and don't let them force you to do what you don't want to do", and similar things. And explain her that mob is labeling as "TERF" everyone there who is slightly against their rhetorics, even their own transwomen.

[–]Gearbeta[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, I agree I certainly wouldn't send a message like "Hi, I'm a terf, here's some terf articles to read about how we support you" and the last time I saw something like this happen (pxr on tumblr) people were definitely doing that. I'm just saying that even if she says she supports TRA idealogy after getting harassed by them now, there's a very good chance she will change her mind later. But you are absolutely correct that what she needs is support of a non political nature.

[–]Astrid2448 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As an aside, they really are total assholes for beating up their own supporters. How many people here started off as supportive but got berated enough that they finally snapped?

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Isn’t that pretty much where we all came from?

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She almost certainly will, but through what she will live trying to apologize and stop harassment before that happens?

You can repost this tweet to /s/GC, maybe someone there can help (just mention that help should be non-political).

[–]Gearbeta[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really think the best thing she could do is log off TikTok for a while. And hopefully she has supportive people IRL who she can spend time with. The internet can really be a toxic place.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If those trolls are like on gencercynical, they will follow her on all her other accounts as well.

And hopefully she has supportive people IRL

I hope for that too.

[–]Astrid2448 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is what happened to me. The problem is that they attack their allies. I was on the trans train, but the hate didn’t stop. It wasn’t enough that I agreed with 99%, the 1% that I didn’t agree with made me an irredeemable monster unless I was immediately willing to change my mind. I’m not a TERF now either, but I am definitely a lot more sympathetic to how TERFs became so vocal

[–]Gearbeta[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even if you did immediately change your mind, they wouldn't have accepted it. The TRA inability to accept apologies and constant hostility towards everyone is our greatest asset. Even if the tiktok girl herself doesn't agree with us there are probably other people who are watching this mess right now questioning if the TRAs are really as much of victims as they say.

[–]kwallio 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Its not even the 1%, the requirements to be a trans ally are constantly changing.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

That doesn't meen that she need no help. And even worse will be if there will be no one to stop her from "going to sleep with transbian to stop harassment". Because it will not stop harassment and will only hurt her soul even more. So many young lesbians went through this. My closes friend is lesbian and she tried so hard to be straight, to date men and "fix herself", that I just can't watch calmly at this girl living through the same hell, but this time forced not by patriarchic society but forced "by friends from LGBTQ+".

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. I don't have and won't get a TikTok account, but it may be helpful for her to understand that there is nothing she can say, no middle ground that will please them. No matter how polite she is, they will read vitriol into her words, accuse her of violence, blame her for murder and suicides, and try to cancel her. It's so painful to watch her having to apologize like that.

[–]CJLez 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

to stop harassment you need to sleep with transbian with penis, or we will not believe you are sincere apologizing

I grew up with a physically violent narcissist for a sister and she was terrifying enough but... I genuinely can't understand how someone can say something like that, nevermind to someone who is obviously having a potential mental health crisis, and stand to live with themselves. This is on a whole other level. It's heartbreaking.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I had similar things said to me in person during USSR times, and in internet it is much easier to say such things, especially for teens, who do not understand all consequences of their actions.

[–]CJLez 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

More and more I think the internet was a mistake.

I'm sorry you went through that.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Internet was not a mistake, it just shows all the rot of the society much better and much faster. And it helps to people a lot as well, so it is not only doing harm.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There are incels invading lesbian territory to gain access to lesbians

https://wombyna-ovaryhaver.tumblr.com/post/615582838589472768/trans-reddit-incelmgtownazi-edition

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I swear these sad excuses of men have nothing better to do.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 36 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 1 fun37 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Damn I just saw what I think is the full extent of it. She made a video saying that it's not transphobic to not be attracted to male genitalia because as a lesbian she's wired to be that way and even said if other lesbians are into it, that's fine for them (always that concession that will never get treated like the ridiculously large concession it is).

She clearly thought she was being misunderstood and mislabeled a TERF so she kept trying to explain herself and faced more and more vicious hate until she finally broke down crying and apologized. Just absolutely ludicrously disgusting. But no one is saying you have to like girldick my ass. Where the hell are the LGBT organizations on this shit? This is so, so, so mind-blowingly disgusting. They should all be asked why they're not defending her. Pieces of shit.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 29 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

LGBT organizations

You mean TQ+ organizations? I see no LGB organizations anymore, they all TQ+, they all dropped LGB without saying it at loud.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know, but I want them to face a reckoning for being this blatant.

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

She’s gotta stop calling the other women who are into it “lesbians” because they are not, and she doesn’t honestly believe it. Just keep other women out of it, don’t call them bi, pan, anything. Just don’t call them anything. She invalidates her own argument with that particular concession. She could say “if some women are into trans women, that is fine” instead of even bringing orientation into it apart from her own.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Baby steps for the nascent terfling: Step 1 is realizing all the sane people are TERFs and that when she’s on the other side of this she will feel like she at least has clarity of mind. Step 2 is anger at realizing all of the lies she’s been fed and all the people she’s been mislead to hate. She’s probably re-reading what JK Rowling said right about now. Step 3 is getting rid of the word “preference” from her vocabulary when talking about sexual orientation because it’s not true and invalidates her points. Step 4 is becoming a lesbian gatekeeper because she’ll know what’s at stake.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

She should also consider dropping the word “valid.” Lol. Anyone who terfs-out has an initial period of “exploding star” level rage that eventually cools down. She’s not going to enjoy that part.

[–]immersang 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anyone who terfs-out has an initial period of “exploding star” level rage that eventually cools down.

That is such an apt description. :D

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    [–]windrunner 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I'm sick and tired of watching women, specially lesbians, always making concessions at the expense of our own sexuality. Lesbians like women, are sexually and romantically atracted to women, not men, not trans woman, not whatever new gender bullshit people managed to create from that dumpster on fire that is tumblr/twitter. I don't know why many people like to label themselves lesbians when they clearly are not. And the worst part is trying to "redefine" the term lesbian to "be more inclusive" because it's an "outdated term" and "things change". 🤮🤮🤮

    [–]i_serenade_cows 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    it's just homophobia and blatant erasure of homosexuality at this point and they don't even realise it

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Lesbians don’t change. We are boring pussy-lovers. These people should just use the label that fits them or none at all, but they are determined to erase lesbians and bisexuals.

    [–]SeasideLimbs 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    It's scary to see just how common narcissistic fetishism has become among teenagers. So many porn-addicted, straight men. So many anime profile pictures. So many predators.

    [–]ItsBondageTime 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Whats wrong with anime profiles? Some people arent interested posting their face

    [–]SeasideLimbs 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Absolutely. Not everyone with an anime profile picture is a trans person, and not every trans person has an anime profile picture. There's simply a large trend toward it, to the point where if you see a person online express very "woke" opinions and also have an anime profile picture (particularly of anime girls,) more often than not you would be right if you assumed it to be a trans person. If one could gamble on this issue, one would stand to win out in the long-term if one were to bet every such person is trans. The reason why is most likely that anime appeals exactly to the kinds of men specifically who will begin to identify as trans women: it is highly sexualized (very male gaze-y), appeals to people who see themselves as outsiders, who lack social skills, who are entertained by rather transparent male power fantasies and who spend a lot of time online.

    [–]markiemarcus 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I would really hate to be young in 2020. It's different when you're a bit older; it's like water off a duck's back these days, where "go fuck yourself" is both a reflex and entirely appropriate.

    There's a special place in hell for the incel bastards doing this.

    [–]hellonumpty 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    To think the arseholes on actualtransbians blame this kind of thing on 'TERF lies' to absolve them of any responsibility. They are disgusting tbh.

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 22 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 6 fun23 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

    What do you mean? This never happens. No one says you have to like penis. No one. That's TERF propaganda and you're a TERF for suggesting it.

    [–]7of99 15 insightful - 6 fun15 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

    We have never pushed girldick on lesbians.

    Also, we have always been at war with Eastasia.

    [–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    In fact, those are actually TERF actors that are pretending to be TRAs. Yeah, that's it! And we did it to make TRAs look bad! We did it by... bullying someone on our side...? Yeah sure, why not

    [–]SausageFanatic 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yet another young lesbian being harassed for stating the fucking obvious. WHEN WILL IT END? These TRAs carry more poison than a bloody rattle snake.

    The fact that they've bullied her so much into apologising is completely heartbreaking. My heart goes out to her.

    [–]upcomingDaddygay af 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Never Apologize to these people, they don't care and won't stop. It may actually make it worse since they get off on the power play of making others grovel.

    [–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's disgusting to watch. You're absolutely right, they do get off on the power play.

    [–]Lessom 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    That is really sad. Poor girl.

    She was sticking up for herself until the homophobes eventually got to her and made her cry.

    Edit: I agree with MezozoicGay idea of someone with TikTok reaching out to her to calm her down and show support.

    [–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    If women want to stand up to the psychopath crowd, they’d best be aware that not everyone is going to like them. She’s literally not sorry for not liking dick, grovelling and sobbing is pathetic. If you’re gonna say something obviously unpopular among nutcases then be ready for blacklash, or don’t bother. It looks a lot worse to throw yourself down on the altar. This is the reason lesbians get trampled and gay men don’t.

    [–]Gearbeta[S] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    In her defense, she may not have known it was unpopular. TRAs like to gaslight people and say whenever cotton ceiling rhetoric is brought up "No one's saying that! No one's REALLY trying to force lesbians to like dick its just some crazy trolls on the internet!" But now she's learning the hard way that that was just a bunch of bullshit and they really are trying to force lesbians to like dick.

    As for standing up for herself, I have to have some compassion for her, she's young and in an virtual instant is watching what she thought was her supportive community turn into rabid dogs and attack her. She's trying everything to make it stop and they won't. So I'm not surprised she's crying and begging. This is why we need a supportive community of real lesbians, of real LGB people to give people like her the strength they need to stand up for themselves.

    [–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    TRAs like to gaslight people and say whenever cotton ceiling rhetoric is brought up "

    Indeed, if you check their topics, they are always "It is fine to love only one genitals, but...". So normal person comes there, reads that TRA seems to be fine with loving one genitals, as it is literally written like that. However, they are not realizing that "but" overwrites everything.

    [–]Ossidiana 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    It's not as easy, tough guy. Us women are hardwired by both biology and society to comply. To be nice. To not be aggressive. Again: both our very biology and society as a whole makes us women like this.

    Assertive women are hardly popular, aren't they? Society hates those. And when you're the weak gender, and a bunch of thugs from the strong gender come to harass you and yell at you, and you're just a teenager with a not fully developed social consciousness, sometimes all you can do is bow and beg for them to stop.

    This young girl needs support. Can someone link her to this thread? Perhaps reading our comments and the comments on that Twitter thread will cheer her up.

    [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    It’s never been easy for LGB, lesbians are hated for a reason, and it’s because we have had to toughen up. She will get there eventually. Being LGB in this world means you have to be resilient and resist, I think this new generation didn’t have to fight as much, which is great, but also keeps them quite vulnerable. It’s not an easy life and they do need support, it’s true. But they also need to toughen up. Womanhood is not a popularity contest, especially not being a lesbian.

    [–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    There's also just the rude awakening of discovering that some people in the world love being terrible, and they don't all come with warning labels, or if they do, it's sometimes in the form of red flags that might not seem like signs of danger until you know better or have learned the hard way. She's getting that full blast right now from multiple attackers, which makes it even harder.

    [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    It’s definitely a loss of innocence. I think lots of these women are accepted with open arms and feel like they have a community and find out its conditional. That is a very depressing thing, and she’s probably trying to make it okay for herself so she can get the nice feeling back. Like when a loved one hits you and you blame yourself.

    [–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Thankfully I never wanted to being part of any community. The good thing about being super introverted lol

    [–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    For sure. She's now caught in an abuse cycle. :( I hope it's a short one.

    And I do think you have a point that thanks to the work of their forbears, it's probably been easier for some young women to be accepted as a sexual minority than it was for earlier generations, which easily could set them up to not see this coming or be adequately circumspect. Having to be wary really sucks but crappy people are not going anywhere, clearly—look at all of the young ones doing all this damage now.

    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The change now is that the abuse coming from within the community is just as strong as the hate from fundamentalists toward our community. Not only do the TRAs hate their own, but they hate the whole world and expect all of us to change for them.

    LGB have always been assholes to eachother here and there because we are different in many ways, but we were never willing to cut off the whole community’s nose to spite its’ face.

    [–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Which walks these unwitting kids right into a trap. The TRAs are adept at love-bombing. That's the bait. Like every predator they look for vulnerable prey, suck them in, and never let them read the fine print.

    [–]uroborosjohnson 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There is so much wisdom in this thread.

    [–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I wish women were more like men in this regard. Lots of them give too much of fuck about others. Don't know whether it's nature or nurture, but it sucks. You can unlearn it, you need practice to change mindset. Stoicism helps.

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    We don’t live natural lives anymore so it’s irrelevant. That’s why the roles make no sense now. People need to become stronger, for sure. Especially LGB

    [–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Biology doesn't care. Having far less testosterone than men makes a different, as well as socialization. It can change when you get older and especially if you work on your mind through philosophy concepts like stoicism, but when you're so young being very insecure is totally normal. I know how she feels, women in general know how she feels. She needs support, not blame.

    [–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You are saying like casual people are aware about all this TRA shenanigans. If casual people were aware, then TRA would not be able to play a victim card.

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Time to take this to actuallesbians and present them the face of an evil transphobic TERF causing literal violence by being penis-exclusionary and peak them en masse. It's one thing to quietly delete comments and ban users from participating. It's another to see the poor girl's face and world crash down for asserting the most basic sexual boundaries of being a lesbian. Is there somewhere these videos are accumulated that's not part of the terfalicious tweets? I know shit about TikTok.

    [–]Femaleisnthateful 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    So she's being 'cancelled' for referring to 'male genitalia'? There was another response that said 'male and female are biological terms', and I literally can't tell if that was intended as a criticism or not, it's such a clown world. Her assessment of cancel culture is on point, I just feel bad for her that she's drunk the koolaid so hard and believes that she actually did something terrible.

    [–]Astrid2448 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    They generally only default to “sex exists, we’re just saying our GENDER is different” when they get called out on poor behavior. Before that they’re all for attacking gay people for not liking the opposite sex, demanding access to women’s healthcare, etc. If this was just about people going “hey, I identify differently than my sex, but I understand the reality that sex matters as well as gender :)” none of this would ever happen.

    [–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Typically motte and bailey argumentation technique: https://heterodoxacademy.org/the-motte-and-the-bailey-a-rhetorical-strategy-to-know/

    Oh looks like this page on motte and bailey was edited to provide a shitty example of TERFs using motte and bailey but it appears they just don’t understand the argument they’re trying to break down:

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey

    Someone should edit it to be about gender/sex and cotton ceiling/no one is saying you can’t have genital preferences.

    [–]kwallio 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Male and female are biological terms...

    [–]Astrid2448 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    In what world is this acceptable? The poor girl seems like she doesn’t even understand what’s going on. She just looks scared and confused, but no, ignore the lesbian feeling isolated and afraid, it’s more important that nobody ever acknowledges that a penis is a male organ. We’re not even allowed to use medical terms or comfort each other anymore, but we’re the bigots apparently

    [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This is what happens when the lunatics take over the asylum

    [–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Young girl came out into the world, into LGBTQ+ community (which is supposed to be Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Queer and allies) bravely saying she is a lesbian - and got hate instead for being "wrong". And now she (and many other people) thinks that LGBT are assholes. While it is only TQ+ are. We need to get LGB out strongly, so people will not associate all this craze with us.

    [–]shveya 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It makes me sad that she apologized. There's nothing these men love more than to see their walking porn fetishes silenced and in pain.

    [–]PassionateIntensity 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    This is why they go after lesbians and women, because we're scared of male violence (including rape). I know some of you guys don't want to hear that, but that's the reality.

    [–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It is surely far less dangerous then going after men

    [–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Like it was in Vancouver Women's Library. Buffed males, ah sory I mean transwomen without HRT, and their unbuffed male friends, came there and were screaming and silencing actual women, while police was ignoring it. And women just afraid of violence that is allowed by police. Each of those buffed "girls" could destroy all women there with one hand. And for some reason I am pretty sure that local news wrote about them as "brave women vravely fought discrimination against them".

    [–]Ossidiana 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    If anybody here uses TikTok, PLEASE go support her. Don't let her surrounded by crazy mysoginists.

    [–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    You should post this on actual lesbians or share it with other people. Share it with JKR and other people who also believe this so they have something to share with everyone else

    [–]windrunner 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Yep, but "no one's forcing lesbians to like dick". I can't believe how stupid and contradicted they sound and people from the community still fall for this shit. At this point, if I say that I, as a lesbian, don't like and never will like dick just as a gay man doesn't like a vagina and this ppl call me a transphobic, I'll just say "Ok. So? Lesbians still don't like dick."

    [–]chazzstrong 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Eh, I'd feel bad for her, but she's already caved and apologized and now her friends are scrambling to make sure everyone knows she's an 'ally'.
    Weak people get no sympathy from me.

    [–]glasses47 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Shes 17 though. And shes getting a massive amount of hate and death threats. Poor girl is probably terrified out of her mind and was just vastly unaware about how psycho tras are.

    [–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    As of "UPDATE 2" from an hour ago it sounds like she doesn't want contact from people she sees as TERFs (of course, it's going to be a while before she realizes that's just a slur). I don't have time to watch the video but maybe you do:

    https://twitter.com/terfalicious/status/1290394452503265282

    [–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Of course she will say that along with appoligies. Casual people thinking that "TERF"s are just evil women who are beating weak transwomen daily, it is almost like callign someone "nazi" - that person is just always wrong. That is why they are so easy on supporting TRA, even when TRA are doing something wrong.

    [–]LasagnaRossa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It looks like the brainwash worked. So sad

    [–]mangosplums 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Damn I finally watched this. Apparently "female genitals" and "male genitals" is considered offensive. Are you fucking kidding me. Are you fucking kidding me. Are you fucking kidding me.