Colonization"My first sign I was trans was wanting to be gay"

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[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 40 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

And in addition to that yaoi is mostly written by women, so they are loving characters created by women for women, and not realy loving gay men as they are in reality.

[–]indeepshadowsBi woman 41 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 1 fun42 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Precisely. Written BY women FOR women. The overwhelming majority of women in that scene know this, but I suppose some impressionable teens can't tell the difference between fiction and reality. There was a very interesting conversation about this a while back on s/GenderCritical.

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

THANK YOU for linking that thread! Holy shit. I feel like I saw this in motion with some of my female friends growing up and didn't quite understand it but just shrugged it off. I never had an anime phase, although I usually enjoyed it at least somewhat when friends would pressure me to watch. I feel like I just.. read all that and saw a way my life could've gone. Holy shit. I am so glad I never fell down this hole.

The overwhelming majority of women in that scene know this

I actually wonder though, if some don't.. or if they just never stop and think about it, because that is threatening, at least.

[–]indeepshadowsBi woman 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I never liked anime/yaoi, but I fell into the M/M hole as a teen, but I didn't stay there for a very long time. I got hyperfixated in something else and forgot about the M/M scene for more than a decade. I still turned out all right, I think! But then again, I was a teen in the early 00s. Times were different back then; nobody thought they could become a gay man. Who knows where I would be if I was fifteen years younger?

I actually wonder though, if some don't.. or if they just never stop and think about it, because that is threatening, at least.

I can only speak for myself and the fandom friends I have... that is, women well over thirty. We know the score, but I genuinely have no idea what the young ones are thinking. I see them put out a lot of genderwoowoo fiction. Especially the ones that identify as trans or nonbinary. It's awful to think that I might've contributed to their identity problems with my stories.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's awful to think that I might've contributed to their identity problems with my stories.

I can totally get why you'd feel that way. But-- in context, the internet is the wild west. Nobody is doing things on the internet with an eye towards how it will affect the growth and development of kids and teenagers, at this point in time. I don't blame you, and I hope you don't feel like there is anything wrong with you for sharing your stories. I don't know your writing at all but I would bet your stories were appreciated by many a person with a developed sense of boundaries. :)

[–]Rosefield 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The Yuri and shoujo ai subs on reddit are infested with trans"women".