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[–]IAmSatanVery... very... very gay.[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I've always thought the EC was an odd thing, looking from the outside. Doesn't seem very democratic from the self-proclaimed number 1 democracy. :s

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's an anachronistic election system. The states were seen as the primary governing entities. They would hold elections for their federal representation which would determine the electors who would need to physically travel to DC and then the electors would vote for president in person. Presumably they would vote in line with the voters of their state but were able to go with their judgment if something happened between the vote and the electoral college meeting.

It was always biased in favor of the southern states. Slaves got counted as population but couldn't vote. Now states use prisons for the same effect. That biases the outcome of that particular state to have disproportionate influence.

All states but 1 now use the EC to throw their entire influence behind a single party instead of proportional based on voters. Take California which is the most egregious example. Democrats hold complete power of state function. The majority of actual people are not democrats but the majority of voters are so they legislate that all 40 million people in their state give that many proportional electoral votes towards president. They aren't going to fix it because they get to allocate tens of millions of voters who didn't vote for them into democratic party electoral college votes.

[–]IAmSatanVery... very... very gay.[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sounds like a mess. I'm sorry but it sounds like you guys need a new constitution. Fawning over something old isn't good itself. Keep the spirit of it - freedom, but reform it heavily to be presence and future proof as possible.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The constitution and the Bill of rights are really the only things holding back complete corporate capture. The Supreme Court is actually decent at bouncing back laws which are blatantly unconstitutional.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The United States is a republic.

[–]IAmSatanVery... very... very gay.[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And Sweden is a monarchy. Still democratic.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You wrote that the electoral college is "odd" and I gave you the answer why it's not.

[–]IAmSatanVery... very... very gay.[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Plenty of republics don't have EC, like how many monarchies don't have actual power. That was my point. A republic can work by popular vote. The other countries with EC aren't as odd as the American one.

I think you believe I'm insulting America or something. Questioning is not insult. I think America is big enough to handle questions.

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't blame non-Americans for not understanding this federal republic with these 50 unique states and territories spread across a relatively large area, but it is fair game to call out when someone makes a claim on something they clearly don't understand.