DiscussionWhich sect of trans ideology do you think is more harmful to the LGB community: truscum or tucutes?

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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Truscum. They're the ones promoting dangerous psuedoscience, such as "innate gender", and are attempting (often succeeding) to change laws. "Tucutes" are usually just children and are in no way a real world threat.

Truscum have also been known to stalk and threaten people who go against them.

[–]indeepshadowsBi woman[S] 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with you about the pseudoscience, but I think tucutes are a genuine threat. They're weaponizing cancel culture to get their way and shut down anyone who dares to question them. They're luring in vulnerable kids and teens in desperate need for attention. They're trying to erase issues like autogynephilia. They're harassing medical professionals until they're frightened enough to let anyone transition. There are definitely a lot of green-haired 15-year-olds calling themselves stargender with weird pronouns, and yeah, maybe that's not dangerous in itself, but tucutes as a group has a lot of power.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

And truscum aren't? Honestly, the "truscum/tucute" divide is meaningless and isn't really a thing anyway. There are plenty of "neogenders" who believe in dysphoria and "classic transsexuals" who don't. If I recall "truscum/tucute" were stupid tumblr terms that originated by a few people.

I'd say that the adults pressuring kids to "transition or die" and trying to get laws changed are much more like "truscum" than not.

[–]indeepshadowsBi woman[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, I wasn't saying truscum haven't caused problems for LGB people; like you can read in my post and several replies I've left to other people, I definitely think they have. I was only reacting to you saying ""Tucutes" are usually just children and are in no way a real world threat."

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

While "truscum = dangerous" seems like a pretty solid conclusion to me, don't know that I'd agree with this "tucute" assessment.

Sure, to the extent that so many are children, "tucutes" may not be much of a real-world threat... NOW. But they're hardly going to stay children, right? Yeah, they could (hopefully) grow out of it... but what if they don't? Then they'll have one of the main things that makes the "truscum" such a menace: adulthood. And the skills, credentials, connections, status, and other resources that go with it.

Could "tucutes" just be "baby truscum"? Only throwing Twitter/Tumblr tantrums until they get old enough to run corporations, lobby (or become) politicians, dictate curricula, and write laws?

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Most ridiculous trans grow out of it, I rarely see someone with "xenogender" shit or "starself" pronouns over the (supposed) age of about 16

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well, isn't "ridiculous trans" redundant, though? Just a matter of what form the ridiculousness takes: regular or extra. So do these kids ever just exchange the extra-ridiculous brand of trans ("xenogender" etc.) for the regular ("transwoman"/"transman"/"nobinary") when they get older?