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Women's IssuesTRA Twitter poll "Are Transwomen women?" - majority of voters clicked No

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[–]Shinjin_NanaNopes faster than an Aeldari Jetbike 83 insightful - 3 fun83 insightful - 2 fun84 insightful - 3 fun -  (22 children)

You should tell that to the men that murder their female partners. Women are more likely to be killed by people who claim to love them and are close to them. Funny thing... that love of women.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 7 fun -  (21 children)

Come off it. Did I say NOBODY dislikes women? I responded to "society hates women", you reply with "But SOME PEOPLE". Come off it. Men get murdered WAY more than women do, what the hell are you on about?

[–]LiterallyawomanTERF IRL 69 insightful - 2 fun69 insightful - 1 fun70 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I feel so loved every day when men physically grab me on the street and I can’t get them off me because I’m weaker and afraid they’ll pull a weapon! Also love being told to smile then called a bitch when I don’t <3 SO much love it’s super great being a woman such a privilege teehee I just walk into an office and men are staring at my chest calling me cupcake at a work meeting it makes me feel SO special and loved

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

I feel so loved every day when men physically grab me on the street and I can’t get them off me because I’m weaker and afraid they’ll pull a weapon!

Last I checked, physical assault is illegal. You, also, have equal access to weapons and firearms to eliminate your fear of being weaker as a force equalizer. Imagine having the privilege to think weak men don't exist? Jesus christ.

Also love being told to smile then called a bitch when I don’t

You think men aren't told they have "bad attitudes" and insulted? You're really self absorbed if so.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 26 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You get told that pretty much every day? On the bus, in the grocery store, on your way to your car?

9 times out of 10 when i leave my house some asshole is insulting me or whistling at me like im a dog. Life in the city as a woman is so fucking fantastic.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Suuuure you do. Do you have some sort of evidence or data or something? Anecdotes from anonymous people on the internet aren't known for their veracity.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://youtu.be/x2w3D4sAkI8

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 66 insightful - 2 fun66 insightful - 1 fun67 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

No, you said that women are treated well, because they're attractive lol Finding someone attractive doesn't mean treating them as equal. Vast majority misogynistic are male hetero.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

I pointed out women are in appearance more average and generally more attractive, but also treated better in general in psychological and sociological findings. So far, people have started out by claiming women are treated badly, and I refuted that claim. Shifting the goalpost to "treating them as equal" is a whole other vague series of arguments entirely. Feel free to take up the argument. Tell me, what rights do women currently lack that men have?

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 51 insightful - 2 fun51 insightful - 1 fun52 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

What the hell means treated better? Even muslims who treat women as some kind of minor for life think they're treating them in special way. Women have always been treated with some kind of courtesy, which wasn't about being treated better, but just being seeing as some kind of kid who cannot being indipendent as a man or some beautiful object, not being treated better. Women aren't treated better, and having same legal right, doesn't mean being treated as equal socially or in the workplace.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

What the hell means treated better?

Well if you read a brief summary on the women are wonderful effect you'll find, in general, women are viewed more favorably than men. Considered more positive overall, less hostile, more trustworthy, etc. They're not only given special consideration, but by all accounts interpersonally given more consideration than men are. From both men and women.

What legal rights do women lack in the USA? What law allows them not to be treated equally in the workplace? Can you give some actual evidence or basis of your complaint?

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 53 insightful - 2 fun53 insightful - 1 fun54 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

This is so stupid. That's nothing to do about women being treated better. It's because women are not seen as a physical threat and are socially seen as a mothers. Also, yeah, women are nicer, except that if a woman get angry she's hysteric,while a man is resolute. And of course, "she should smile more". This has nothing to do with law. Cultural sexism is not about laws. The world is male dominated and women have always been treated as some kind of marginal minority, despite being 50 percent. And USA is a society which managed to elect a black president and a orange moron president before a woman. 200 years of history, all male presidents.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I asked you for some evidence or basis of your complaint. Your reply did not present any. What you posted, instead, are just more assertions without a basis. Women and men preferring in general to do different things has little to do with "sexism". In 200 years of history, nobody I've ever been related to at any point in traceable history has been politically successful at any level. Is this grounds for me to declare "Skittle bigotry"? These essentialist assertions you're making about society in general, today, are ridiculous. Please actually try to formulate an argument, with evidence, of some part of your beliefs.

[–]florasisHOMOSEXUAL FEMALE/Pussy is my God and I'm monotheist 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Because you think you got a basis denying millennials of sexism and male dominated society, with a dumb study from 1994 about women being perceived as a nicer? LMAO That's not about you or you relatives. That's about a male dominated society and women being marginalized, despite being 50 percent of population. But your response is " my relatives are not into politics" And thats logic for you? lol

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Men and women throughout history have been marginalized to varying degrees. As before, men have been forcibly conscripted and generally the targets of most violent crimes and injustices. From lynchings to murders. I pointed out none of my relatives have been politically successful, because according to you this would be grounds to declare marginalization of my skittle bloodline. It's a reductio ad absurdum, to demonstrate how this reasoning can be used to declare anything marginalization simply from a lack of representation.

For that matter, it makes no sense to declare some ongoing injustice on the basis of some historical one. You don't "carry forward" sin. You do not inherit sin. I've no idea why you think history matters with respect to modern times, nor with respect to ongoing research demonstrating just how favorably women are treated compared to men. Nor is it a single 1994 study, I unilaterally declare this is true of basically every study ever related to the topic. I can give you more, if you really wanted them, but you aren't even reading what I presented in the first place.

[–]TheLesbean 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Women face more harassment, men face more violence. Since it’s not the same form of “harm” people don’t see them as equal. People are more passive-aggressive to women and people are more aggressive to men. Which is why some women are such bitches and some men are more violent.

[–]TheLesbean 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The “society hates women” would be more true in some middle eastern/African countries. There’s literally a game to rape women in public called Taharrush Gamea/Jimea (which goes on) There’s also the mass rapes of Egypt. There have been American, French and other reporters who were assaulted after/during recording live. It’s a bit better when you get to western countries and European countries. It would help if people could say which country they are from to see where they are coming from

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USA perspective here. I think such arguments are certainly better made in the nations you refer to.