LesbianCanceling Lesbos: The State of Lesbian Online Communities: Benjamin speaks to the mod of the now canceled r/truelesbians

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[–]JulienMayfair 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's an interesting interview, but there's a lot of obvious dishonesty going on. She claims not to understand why Reddit banned r/truelesbians even though it's pretty much impossible that she doesn't know why it happened. She does say that they are petitioning Reddit to get r/truelesbians back, so maybe that's why she doesn't want to talk about the elephant in the room.

Edit: I would date Benjamin if he was gay :-)

[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Agreed. The tap-dancing around the truth is frustrating

Even when Benjamin asked about how there seems to be a battle between inclusive vs exclusive, and how exclusive is branded as hateful - obviously trying to allow her to talk about how diversity is being weaponized (he even used that word) - she kinda side-stepped it by saying she doesn't know because she herself is a kind and welcoming person, and talked about being called hateful, TERF, doxxing concerns, etc. But she never really answered WHY that's happening.

I don't think I heard the word "erasure" or "targeting" even once. She did at one point mention that the LGBT community is being ripped apart, and blamed it on a divide between LG and BT+ . Obviously she's allowed her opinion, but I didn't really appreciate her throwing bisexuals under the bus like that. "True Bisexuals" exist too, and are growing in numbers for the same reason as "True Lesbians".

I think you're right that her approach may have to do with trying to get back on Reddit and demonstrate neutrality. It makes me glad that places like our sub can exist here, and we can just outright say what's going on.

[–]Astrid2448 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You know what, no. Truebisexuals is absolutely tiny and there is a reason for it.

The vast majority of the time some asshat treats gay men and lesbians like crap over this stuff, it is either someone who is trans or someone who is bisexual. Nearly every one of the nonsense sexualities and genders is another word for bisexual. The people seeking out, trapping, and lying to lesbians to try to get a threesome? Bisexual women. The people calling themselves lesbians despite loving penis, having a husband or boyfriend, or sleeping with men? Bisexual women. The people pushing the terms “bi lesbian”? Bisexual women. The people who currently take up the majority of any given lesbian space, and become incredulous the second that’s questioned? The people who constantly seek attention for sleeping with women? The people who fetishize lesbians and encourage men to do so as well? The people who say sexuality is fluid, genitals are a preference, and that gay men and lesbians are just closed minded? All of these are so often bisexual people, specifically bisexual women. It is not one or two bad apples, it is a community issue.

I am perfectly fine with reasonable, chill, and respectful bisexuals. I feel the same about reasonable, chill, and respectful trans people. But if accepting you guys means we have to close our ears and go “la la la” over the MASSIVE numbers of bi women in particular who are gleefully destroying the lesbian community, or that’s bullshit. If us even mentioning that means you’re going to throw a fit and ditch us as well, that’s bullshit too.