Grown adult has meltdown over being misgendered

submitted by WildApples from self.GenderCritical

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1492925757898702848

Gender ideology has to be one of the worst things to ever happen to mental health.

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[–]FlippyKing 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

I would call that a cognitive dissonance created by social media, but dissonance is winning over cognition. Gender: more problems than it could ever even pretend to solve.

Protip: if you want to be called "they", put a couple of puppets on your shoulders. Make us all think you consult with them before saying or doing anything: really sell this "they" to us if you want us to buy it. I just found my Halloween costume.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Back when I was deep into the cult, I was told to imagine that all "they/them"s have pet mice in their pockets so I wouldn't "misgender" them.

[–]FlippyKing 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So, they took the old "What? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?" joke seriously. Not surprising.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's becoming self-parodic. The old "bioqueen" meme (a man trapped in a woman's body who feels like a woman) is now a reality.

[–]FlippyKing 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've been wanting to say, I'm sorry you got lost in that stuff. I'm glad you're out though and I hope you're wiser and better in at least some ways for the journey. At the very least you're better equipped to help those who will at some point want a way out too.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Gender: more problems than it could ever even pretend to solve.

You got me at the pretend, masquerading and role playing is what this gender identity shit is all about! That's a beautiful way to put it.

Protip: if you want to be called "they", put a couple of puppets on your shoulders.

Don't forget, you need to make sure they can talk and think for themselves too. No way I'm using "they" if you have dead dolls surgically attached to your body.

[–]bolla_top 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

I wonder what she did up until like 10 years ago before they/them became a thing. I guess her life was just constant agony and humiliation.

[–]teacherterf 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

THIS. None of the adult they/thems of my acquaintance had anxiety attacks ten years ago when people referred to them with sexed pronouns. Now they can't handle basic interactions with anyone who hasn't been successfully reprogrammed by gender trainers. And these are the people that gender ideology is supposedly helping.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is self-inflicted drama. I would rather avoid being friends with thsse people, unfortunately, they're the ones getting opportunities.

[–]teacherterf 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

These aren't my friends. Some are colleagues (fortunately not ones I work closely with), and others are running in elections I'm eligible to vote in (I've ruled out voting for them on exactly this basis - I don't trust anyone who has a penchant for inventing problems to solve real problems).

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I didn't think or say they are your friends, you said "acquaintance", so it's clear what is your relationship with them. I was complaining how many jobs are given to people through connections and pointing out how some of us might have to "validate" them in order to keep our jobs, or even to get a job at all. I was trying to word my complaint the most shortest way as possible.

[–]teacherterf 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, I agree - sorry for the confusion. And yes, the two they/thems at my workplace seem to spend half their time training people how to walk on eggshells around them. Nice work if you can get it.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. Those colleagues sound like power hungry narcs

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've seen quite a few transmen say they never felt any discomfort or dysphoria around pronouns or names until they transitioned.

The supposed cure causes the illness.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I feel like I should be mad that this woman is acting like a toddler because the other adults didn't want to play her games, but I actually feel sorry for her. On the one hand, it's no good that an adult is acting like a 3 year old who was told she can't take her teddy in the pool, but only the mentally ill would act like this.

These people are acting like dementia patients -- I kid you not. This is exactly how my grandfather with dementia acted whenever he was told that he couldn't go to his childhood home because it was torn down and that he couldn't see his mother because she was dead (of course, he thought his mother was still alive).

[–]FlippyKing 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

One of the ideas in "grown up" anarchism (not the one you see EVERYWHERE now) is that society is not grown up because we turn to authority to solve our problems. We can't solve our problems anymore really. This gender nonsense didn't just happen on social media, schools embraced it and taught it and now enforce it. Her childish behavior is a result of something other than her parents parenting her. This is true of so many problems in society.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Society has become immature. We need to throw them into third world countries. Those people there have to prioritise survival over this nonsense. This coming from a first world millennial who use to never really care about such distinctions but now she does, because this society has become so sensitive. I use to not give a fuck about this stuff and treated people like they were on my level.

[–]FlippyKing 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think a lot of the immaturity comes also from too much free time. Schooling is sort of designed to occupy that "free time", making us accept regimentation and authority, but when most of the population were physically involved in food production, and far fewer people pretending to be smart and important were living off of them, we were too exhausted to entertain such nonsense. It is not coincidence that these ideas enter society from those who would rule over us. They have too much free time to be really useful good members of society.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I also suspect their notion weren't "challenged" enough. I remember whenever I exhibited or expressed something to do with gender identity, I was either challenged "so...what part of being a girl stops you from doing this" (e.g. manual labor, games) or "so, this pair of kids pyjamas come with a little teddy bear" for cheap and comfy $1 AUD unpopular pyjamas (they were comfy, back when manufacturing was better too). My family aren't even TRYING to be political or socially progressive, the focus was pragmatism. I really couldn't use "it's because I'm a GIRL".

I noticed this gender identity distinction from an early age, and was annoyed when I got the boy stuff because "I'm a girl" and lots of stuff are marketed SOECIFICALLY for "girls" but my family, shut that stuff down because we're not rich, we're not from a background where we can afford to exercise this crap more often.

[–]FlippyKing 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Families are like the lynch pin in all of this I guess. Either they give you the frame of reference to reality to resist or they go all in and leave the kid more adrift they they themselves are.

These roles developed over time in specific economies, and the narrow minded will not see beyond them. That's why this isn't a left or right issue, or "progressive vs regressive", or anything. It's more fundamental, and the weak minded or narrow minded are bounced back and forth across what is called left or right no differently than they wear bell-bottoms or button fly or acid washed jeans, or what ever the style dictates.

I keep blaming the middle class, but I think they are to blame. They want it both ways, they want their pretty good position in the economic social order, and they want to feel like they are helping to move society in a good better direction. The myth of progress might be in play here. The myth that some how, as we gather more information, we actually learn more things (debatable already) about how to make a better-run society (very debatable). This myth relies on a misreading of the arc of history, which is written and rewritten over and over by the victors, as being towards justice or peace and love and understanding. It is like an anti-Malthusian version of social evolution. These all add up to a modern (if not just post-"enlightenment") paradigm and a set of assumptions, which include a cross-religion "progressive" modern theology that sees religious truths ( which some would already step back and call and oxymoron, but it can be more complicated { or clearer, really } than that ) evolving or even seeing God as literally evolving ( which involves a creator who is not separate at all from creation or a creator that created itself along with and within creation inseparably. If that sounds circular, it leads to a lot of circular reasoning ) as if everything marches towards some future perfection together minus the troglodytes who actually look at reality close up ]. Blind faith in this myth lets them equate anything coming out of a university or an academic journal with the kind of future seen in Star Trek or the Care Bears. Ultimately, grooming kids will seem to them like preparing them for the real world and that it is really just paving the way for a really perverted in the truest sense of the word will seem prudish and out of step with the current state of scientific knowledge.

Wow, that was longer than I expected. Sorry.