Disappointed in Vanessa Vokey

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[–]FlippyKing 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Are you a scientist? Something is not anti-science just because authorities and people in media label something as anti-science. The same people who would label her anti-science would label us anti-science because we're going against all kinds of authoritative scientific and medical institutions. The NEJM is not on our side in all this. Are we anti-science? No. Hopefully we're anti-bullshit and not just anti-THIS-bullshit.

The mask mandate is authoritarianism, not science. The vaccines for covid were introduced as part of a two year pharmacovigilance study. Only after that is done can any "science" be done on the data collected. It would be unwise to just trust the company's statements on that data. Since Pfizer recently paid a 2.3 Billion dollar fine and J&J paid a 2.2 billion dollar fine, skepticism of them is just reasonable. Science begins, and bullshit starts getting pushed back slowly, only when results are reproduced (or confirmed, but it already gets slippery here) by independent researchers generating their own new data. We're a long way off from that. The advisory committee advised against the booster shots, but they were overruled by the CDC head-- a political appointee. Was that her exercising "science" or corruption?

Authority has always been anti-science. Capitalism has created a toxic mimic of science and has found it very profitable. We know the trans thing, especially transing of kids, is driven in a large part by the drug companies and all the institutions and professions that make money off of it. We shudder to think of the control over the lives of the victims this gives them. The TRA activists and social media influencers are propped up in service of that profit, not in service of "wokeness" or anything else. The revolving door between government and drug companies is an obscenity. Don't confuse actual science with any of this.

[–]shinnygummy[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I actually am a scientist but not a biologist. The idea that men can never become women is completely in line with all the latest science. Nothing about that is "anti-science" no matter what ideologues say.

Do you feel that scientists are "authorities" you need to rebel against?

Also no sources on any of that, fantastic. Not even a statement of opinion to back up your claim that "the mask mandate is authoritarianism, not science."

Masks are not dangerous. The vaccines are not dangerous, but as with any drug or vaccine, if you are a person with certain health conditions, they could possibly pose a problem and so are evaluated on a case-to-case basis.

And don't lecture me about science when you can't back up even a single one of your claims and you're a Catholic who believes that religious "apparitions" are real.

[–]FlippyKing 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm also a scientist. You want sources? Come on, you know how to do research.

Wait did I say masks were dangerous? Did you take any logic classes along with your science training? I think you're a bullshit artist.

But like I said, I think we're done here.

[–]shinnygummy[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Wait did I say masks were dangerous?

You should be as suspicious of all that nonsense as you should be about the effectiveness of masks (where you are then breathing back in everything your body expels via the lungs as if you know better than that process)

What's your first language?

[–]our_team_is_winning 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's your first language?

You seem to be quite fluent in Xenophobic. Why such hostility toward others with opposing viewpoints?

[–]our_team_is_winning 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The revolving door between government and drug companies is an obscenity. Don't confuse actual science with any of this.

Well said! Also, I've noticed people seem to have forgotten it was just last year that everyone on the Left was tweeting how no way would they take a vaccine that President Trump had encouraged drug companies to rush through. It's the very SAME drug that those SAME people are now championing.

[–]FlippyKing 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right? If ANYTHING shows how the minds of the masses are slapped around like ping-pong balls, this does. Like, what did the drug companies do? The boss comes in and says "bad news everyone, listen up! We have to scrap the bad Trump vaccine we were working on and start working on an whole new good one for Biden who has always been such a man of the people." And the drug companies are the good guys now? If this was a tv show, no one would watch-- that's why they make us live it instead.