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[–]Cass 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

About the muslim world. Muslims worship Muhammad as the perfect human being. The ideal. He married a 6yo girl. He had full sex with her when she was 9. They did other sexual stuff before that. Now that you know this, why would they be upset women are forced to marry?

As for twitter, they want to be tolerant and inclusive. Being tolerant nowadays is a benchmark for how good of a person you are.

Saying you don't want to have sex with this or that person or that you exclude someone from your group, even if you have good reasons, that's not tolerant.

I don't agree with it and I want things to change. But if you try to look at things from a perspective of "how can I be the most tolerant and inclusive here" then it makes sense.

[–]lefterfield 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But if you try to look at things from a perspective of "how can I be the most tolerant and inclusive here" then it makes sense.

It actually doesn't. They are intolerant of lesbians who don't want penises, exclude people who discuss biological sex or have conservative viewpoints. The misogyny they allow excludes women who are victimized by it.

One of the most brilliant acts of political propaganda has been to define "left-wing(not "liberal") values as being "tolerant" and "inclusive". But plenty of people and ideas are excluded from their ideology, which makes them intolerant. TRUE liberalism would be to allow people to express genuinely different viewpoints, debate them openly, and allow people to choose which are the best. As an ideal, at least, in practice there are always limits.

But even considering that limits will always exist, the current illiberal left are among the least tolerant and least inclusive people I've ever met. Twitter supports that crowd, not the ideals of fairness or mutual respect.

[–]Cass 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Saying you don't want to have sex with this or that person or that you exclude someone from your group, even if you have good reasons, that's not tolerant.

This is how they see things. These things are not tolerant/inclusive, according to their definition of tolerance.

Since tolerance = good/moral and intolerance/bigotry = bad/evil (according to the msm/woksters etc) then suppressing the bad/evil people is a good thing in accordance with their ideology.

[–]lefterfield 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I know how they see it. I'm saying the truth is not in accordance with their views. They aren't tolerant or inclusive, so their moral view is contradictory - or, by their own definitions, they aren't moral people. It can be difficult to define what objective morality is(though I believe it exists), but at the very least, an ideology should be internally consistent. Wokeness is not.