What do you see as the solution though? The US(or some other power) stays in the country for 10, 20, 100 years, propping up the government and enforcing a peace the people don't really care about themselves? I don't believe there was a good side here. The Afgan government and officials were doing some messed up and corrupt things too - but sure, it's true that they're slightly less reprehensible than the Taliban. If there's one thing I agree with Biden on, it's that you can't give people the will to fight for their country.

And I'm all for criticism of Islam. I think "liberals" and westerners are complete and utter morons for thinking it's just a 'cultural difference'. It is brutal to women and boys, and yes, when it takes over, the country is doomed. Afghanistan is doomed, sorry to say. Don't act like I'm ignorant of the reality of the situation just because I say: It's not our problem. It should never have been our problem. We (stupidly) gave the Afgan army every advantage and training, and this is STILL the end result. Absolutely nothing. Correction: Worse than nothing, because it's worse than when we started.

So again, what's the solution? What should be done that wasn't tried in the past 20 years, that would have somehow made a difference?