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[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Also from Abigail Shrier, author of IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE, the book about the trans craze among young girls.

I don't get how one can be as eloquent as Abigail was speaking in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee against the Equality Act, and yet endorse a TiM for a powerful political office AND use female pronouns for him.

Plus Bruce is a know-nothing famewhore partially responsible for the Kardashian Scourge...

Abigail:

"The ad is phenomenal. Notice she never pretends she wasn't Bruce Jenner."

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1389740065694261250

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't see how there are mixed messages?

Jenner is speaking out against TIMs in womensports. This is good for us. Calling Jenner him in public would only cause her to get an enormous backlash and have all the genderists go "see she is transphobic"

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Abigail tweet is endorsing Jenner's campaign ad. The last thing the hippy-dippy, airy-fairy state of Trans Uber Alles California needs is another celebrity governor, much less a TiM celebrity governor.

And the last thing all the female detransitioners and their parents, who found some kind of explanation of the crazy spiral they got sucked into in Abigail's book, need is her appearing to endorse this man, because he is clearly an autogynephile and so, far from being a "True Trans, (which I personally believe is a mental illness) he's simply a heterosexual male who gets off on cross-dressing.

And really - Abigail spoke in front of the US Senate and probably did a considerable amount to save Americans from the Equality Act, so for her to suddenly appear to endorse a TiM for an incredibly important political role will come across as an endorsement of the True Trans narrative and set our struggle back immeasurably.

[–]one1won 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

An opposing view to user needmorecoffee:

Scream it from the rooftops - The House Is On Fire!! This Is Not A Drill. Women's safety, dignity, and personhood are at stake.

Screw being "nice" or "empathetic"! There's a place for rage in advocacy, and shutting up or shutting down women capable of channeling their rage is misogynistic. Well behaved women seldom make history!

A single focus strategy is ineffective. 2nd wave feminists didn't accomplish so many gains by solely using "politically correct" speech. Fuck being empathetic! Dudes screech when they believe they're being stomped on - if women don't get nasty, dudes assume women consent/agree. Well, I fucking don't! Sometimes, you have to "speak their language" to be understood.

I may not always agree with an individual woman's position/outlook on issues, I DO vehemently defend her right to her opinions and approach. Even user's needmorecoffee - for the userself, but not any behavior-policing.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read this post before I read needmorecoffee's reply to me. My thoughts:

Women's collective rage has fueled a lot of change. And sometimes, since so many of us are trained from birth to be kind, and to not speak out, sometimes an angry, but well-spoken, woman shocks men, and women with internalized misogyny, into listening.

I also think that many women are silently seething, or at least becoming very concerned, about this issue as it becomes apparent that the Gender Mob has launched a War on Women, so when one of us harpies (and I don't mind being called a harpy) start banging the drums, it emboldens other women to also speak out.

But also, I remember the tail-end of Second Wave feminism, and from my young perspective, it was a very broad movement - women of every color and socio-economic class had just had it with our oppression. So 2nd Wave feminism was a collective scream, but it wouldn't have been possible without the women who were willing to risk everything by starting their own screaming first.