Ovarit discusses Plastic Surgery - surprised to see some of these comments

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[–]WildApples 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are not discussing plastic surgery; they are discussing completely forbidding plastic surgery. I disagree with plastic surgery for the reasons the OP mentioned, but I completely disagree with prohibiting it. The problem is not the availability of the surgery anyway; the problem is with a culture that is oversaturated with youthful, hypersexualized images of women and which continually sends the message that you are not good enough the way you are.

I don't want to force my beliefs on others any more than I want people to force their beliefs on me, and I agree with the commenter who mentioned that it would create a bad precedent for women if we empowered government to intervene and make decisions about women's bodies for us. I will never support anything that requires supplanting women's own will and control of their bodies with government's. That is the same reason I don't support things like mask and vaccine mandates (not a popular opinion these days, I know, but my eyes are on the long-term repercussions). Once you set the precedent that government has the authority to make decisions about your body, political interests groups are going to use that power to impose their will on vulnerable classes (e.g. banning abortion and birth control for women, policing what pregnant women eat and do and criminalizing behavior deemed harmful to the fetus, forcibly transitioning a child over the parents' objections, etc.).

[–]arcticbasket 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. Adults should be treated as adults. They should have the option.

[–]SkepticalHPS 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is exactly how I feel about these things. When you give the government power they never, ever ease off. I want as little interference in what I do to my body as possible.

[–]Greykittymomma 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wow they act like taking boob jobs away = anti-abortion laws... for the record I would never get either but they are not the same at all.

Clearly many of them were triggered..."but I got some work done and I love makeup how dare you tell me what to do with my body"... unlike the doctors, ads, society that told you to get the work done and wear the makeup? Ok then!

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow they act like taking boob jobs away = anti-abortion laws... for the record I would never get either but they are not the same at all.

The problem isn' t that they are the same, they clearly aren' t, but they will be used to push the idea that some things regarding body autonomy can and should be limited. I seriously doubt that anti-abortion assholes wouldn' t jump at the chance. TRAs are already using that argument to justify transition, it' s not going to be long before conservatives do the same.

[–]Greykittymomma 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't doubt that! I mean, calling them men is already literal violence. Scary stuff!

I already get called conservative for saying basic facts so they are doing a fantastic job shifting this agenda.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not surprised to see authoritarian women on ovarit. I'm surprised to see someone calling for nuance though.

It isn't your responsibility to ban surgery and decide what's a legitimate case or not. Or ban makeup. You don't get to decide for me what is reasonably covering up blemishes, what is fun personal expression, or what is "too much," something I did for "the male gaze" etc, because I'm too stupid to know how advertising works.

It is your responsibility to hold up values that nurture healthy individuals who aren't image-obsessed, narcissistic, fooled by marketing, and so on. A responsibility we appear to be failing at, but nonetheless.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well doctors are supposed to do no harm, are they not? It shouldn't be illegal to obtain the surgeries, but at least the very risky ones like extremely huge breast implants or Brazillian butt-lifts (the one where they take fat from somewhere else and inject it into your butt, if they get even a tiny bit of fat in your artery you could die of a stroke) should be prohibited for doctors to perform? We'd also need a huge information campaign so people wouldn't go get the surgeries in some other country where it's less safe.