Twoxchromosomes on Reddit now posting transition pics, and is basically a trans sub now.

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[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Where did I say most girls are NOT treated differently? Yall are making a hell of a lot of unfounded assumptions about me. I was treated differently by my family, I SAID THAT. But do I think my experience was 'that bad' compared to what I know happens in other countries? Hell no.

And no, I'm not offering you "research" to defend the statement I THINK. THINK!! If I'm wrong, then offer your own fucking research and stop throwing around accusations.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Where did I say most girls are NOT treated differently?

I don't think most girls are treated badly

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

???? Badly and differently are not the same goddamn word.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

So you think that when males and females are treated differently the female isn't being treated badly? Also chill out.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

No, fuck you. You and other posters could have done something as radical as ask me what I meant. I even did try to clarify it in response to someone else, and I was still attacked afterwards for things I never said.

To your actual question... what does females treated differently mean? My mom treated me better than my brother, imo. My dad treated me worse than him. Some girls undoubtedly have it much worse. But males and females are not the same. If "different" means they were told not to go out at night alone, or given different restrictions, a lot of that is practical. It may not be entirely fair, but I wouldn't say that's a girl being treated badly. It's also not fair I had to pay more for health insurance, or was told not to study math, or creeped on by older guys, but again... I'm grateful to live somewhere where those were my main complaints. And a lot of what I would define as "badly relative to boys" comes from my observations in other countries. I didn't say no girls in the west are treated badly, and badly is itself a relative and subjective term. So when you're attacking me for using it, you're inferring meaning to words I never said.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Lol I have no ill will towards you. I understand what you mean. Yes, having your movements restricted just because of your sex is being treated badly. I understand being protective over your children/teens, but if, as a parent, you don't let your girl out at night for fear of her safety around boys and men, but let your boy out... need I go on? However, this is the very very least of what girls in the U.S. have to endure, including but not limited to CSA and in certain communities, FGM (though to be fair, that practice was imported from non-Western countries). I'm glad your complaints of sexism are minor compared to how it could be, but understand this is NOT the reality of most girls in the U.S. Also I'm not attacking you.

I didn't say no girls in the west are treated badly

Yeah, and I never said you said that. I feel like you're deliberately misunderstanding me. I literally only take issue with the line I keep quoting. You said "most". I'm simply telling you that's not true.

[–]lefterfield 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Then it sounds like we have a different definition of 'badly.' I don't believe we will EVER have perfect equality between males and females. I can accept some level of differentiation if it is not unreasonable and based on good principles and/or biology. I didn't even say that girls not go out at night - just not alone. Do you think most girls experience CSA or FGM in the west? I'd like to see the statistics on that, as I don't believe it.

And no, I feel like I'm being deliberately misunderstood, and that line is a response to various things other people have said. You've been more fair than them, but still, it pisses me off.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Most girls in the West do not experience FGM, obviously. Also, CSA is an underreported crime. I reported, but many years later, and nothing ever came of it. Anecdotally, it was experienced by over half of my friends. I was the only who reported. Girls and women in the U.S. are controlled and beaten, but it's never spoken about. I would say that yes, over half of girls in the U.S. are treated "badly" on the basis of their sex. Yes, the word "badly" is subjective, but when compared to the treatment of boys, yes, girls are treated worse. Women don't even have full rights in the U.S. It's possible to be jailed for a miscarriage. I could get into the pay gap. Constant disrespect. Now women-only spaces are at risk and in some cases, already gone. I'd never make the claim that things are worse in the West, and there's a lot of work to be done in non-Western countries when it comes to women's rights, but my point still stands.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I didn't say anything about ALL WOMEN nor ALL GIRLS nor did I deny ANY of this. Jesus fucking Christ, I'm sorry I didn't spell out every fucking tragedy when making an offhand remark comparing my experiences in the west with what I've seen and heard of in other countries.

End this already, ya'll have browbeat me over a random word choice for long enough.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Are you trolling? How many times do I need to say I understand? I said I know you never said "all women/girls", but you did say "most". I don't know why you're getting upset over a disagreement. I'm not browbeating you, but I feel the need to respond because you're repeatedly misrepresenting my argument. I said most girls have it bad in the U.S. That is all.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

including but not limited to CSA and in certain communities, FGM

Just checking briefly, it is a minority of girls who are thought to experience CSA. Still higher than boys of course, and far too high. But it's not most.