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[–]linda_senora 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I think conservative groups will have a better reach because they are religious.

If they can let other religious groups see what is going on, they can garner more support than radical feminists can. I know that there have been a few GCs who have approached more conservative people, but other GCs are against working too closely with groups like The Heritage Foundation.

Conservatives don't care what TRAs and trans people think, they don't have to walk on egg shells. IDK.

[–]BEB[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have worked on antiwar issues with groups across the political spectrum, including conservatives. We stuck to the issue, were successful, and became friends.

Even though I admire them tremendously, I don't care what some British feminists say about US feminists working with conservatives. The British have a whole different situation going on. We, here in the US, have to work with conservatives because "Progressives" including the "Progressive" media, are actively working against us.

And conservatives are getting things done. They are saving women and parents' rights and women's sports and children's mental and physical health by getting legislation into state legislatures and getting it passed.

We cannot let what other people think of us stop us. Our ability to function in the world is at stake, and in a few days - next week - the Democrats could vote to erase women, our sex-based rights, our sports, our dignity, our privacy our safety.

If we need to join hands with other women who don't share all of our beliefs, we do it.

[–]linda_senora 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think it is perfectly valid (how I have come to hate that word) that some GCs decide to work with conservatives.

The issue is that many GCs think conservatives are also after women's rights.

For instance, I just recently learned of the existence of a man called Matt Walsh. I agree with what he has to say about the gender war, but everything else he has to say about women's rights is questionable. However, I see the need for people like him and for other men to speak up.

I also see why some GCs don't want anything to do with people like him because it might give credence to TRAs who claim radical feminists are far right.

I guess it is a matter of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' type of scenario. Too much is at stake.

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Trans Demands Activists are a bunch of loons whose more and more outrageous claims are (thankfully) turning the general public against them. I don't pay them any mind.

Feminists are allying with conservatives for just a few strategic reasons, to stop the Equality Act and similar legislation, would be the immediate goal, but also to protect children, free speech, parents' rights - after that we can go back to opposing whatever we disagree on.

Believe it or not, American politicians used to work across the aisle. I think it's time to bring those days back.

[–]linda_senora 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TRAs are loons, I fully agree with that statement.

I do think it necessary to work with the other side (conservatives) in order to hinder the assault carried out by the Trans lobby. TRAs and handmaidens are too dangerous.

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think conservative groups will have a better reach because they are religious.

Also, places of worship - plus the custom of attending church services at least once a week, and going to church during the week for other reasons too (such as child care, choir practice, prayer, Bible study groups, religious education, social groups...) - make them ideal places for political organizing.

It's no accident that the US civil rights movement was organized mostly in/through black churches, and that so many of its leaders past and present have been ministers like ML King, Ralph Abernathy, Jesse Jackson and Rev Al Sharpton.

[–]linda_senora 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hadn't thought of that.

It makes perfect sense.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it doe make perfect sense. And the organizing methods as well as the strategies and tactics used by the black US civil rights movement - and other successful movements - are well worth studying and "taking a a page from."