Elliot Page and Emma Portner Announce Plans to Divorce After 3 Years of Marriage: We 'Remain Close Friends'

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[–]MarkTwainiac 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

If El's wife is the big TRA here, why wasn't she the one to go trans? Or why didn't the two of them go trans together - so they could pretend to be two married gay men?

These are genuine questions. I don't have the background on this couple that others here seem privy to. But it seems to be commonly assumed that El went trans due to coercion, pressure or perhaps worse from El's wife. Which portrays El as an entirely innocent victim and El's wife as the guilty, nefarious villain who took advantage of El.

But is it really that black and white? I'd think that El's status as a Hollywood star who, compared to her wife, was always the one with far greater wealth, earning potential, name-recognition, institutional support (from agents, managers, studio execs, PR teams, attorneys and so on), that El would have at least equal standing in their relationship. Also, El is older by 7 or so years. At the time of their marriage, El was already 30 or more, whereas El's wife was only 23 or thereabouts.

My post illustrates that these two were not on equal footing. Here I am as a member of the general public referring to El's wife as El's wife - coz without her name being stated in the thread title, I'd have no idea what it is. All I've heard previously is that she's a choreographer-dancer who once did something in or for a Justin Bieber video. That's her main claim to fame outside her marriage - not enough to make her a household name. Whereas Page is a household name.

[–]yousaythosethings 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Emma gives off serious “Gone Girl” vibes. Both a quick and deep peruse show that every photo of them together involves Page looking lovingly and submissively toward Emma and searching for her approval while Emma shows coldness, disinterest, and smugness. Page started undergoing a clear rapid decline since they got together. And in this sense, Emma’s lack of public profile would work in her favor. For example, I don’t believe there is evidence that Emma had a prior history with women. If this is the case it provides an explanation for Page seeking to identify out of womanhood.

[–]Elvira95 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She had not previous female relationship, but she look more like a lesbian than Ellen, stereotypically speaking, she's pretty mainly lol

[–]yousaythosethings 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My point is not that I think Emma may not be a lesbian because she had no prior relationship with a female. After all, I’m a late-starting lesbian who hasn’t been into relationships myself. But rather that the the lack of known dating history for her given the other indicators including the cold dynamic toward Page, could be indicia that’s she’s not homosexual.

[–]PassionateIntensity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think Emma IDed as a lesbian. I think she was calling herself genderqueer and fluid or something. It can mess with your head when you aren't sure your partner is really into you, especially as a lonely low self-esteem lesbian (see, Noelle Stevenson, her wife, her wife's affairs and Noelle's current situation).