When I used Reddit upvotes and downvotes were irrelevant to me. I've used forums where that kind of validation was non existent unless it was in a responding post. I always think it is more of a futile attempt at power. I don't give a damn if people disagree with me - it is their right (and I obviously think they are wrong ;-) ). The bigger issue with Reddit is the deleting of posts so the conversation is ridiculously bias and nothing more than a validation chamber of agreement. There is no discussion.

This question is never posed about whether trans people, men or disabled people should have their own private spaces to talk about issues relevant to them, it is always women. Here's the answer; all those people should be able to have spaces where they can talk to people going through the same as them and so should females. Exclusion isn't always a bad thing, sometimes it is necessary e.g cancer support groups aren't going to help you recovering from losing a leg and they won't appreciate you soliciting help for that. I'm sick and tired of this narrative that inclusion at all costs is desirable or necessary. Now I'm off to force the Russian Olympic gymnastics team to include me despite the fact I am old, fat, not remotely bendy and have no training. I'll let you know how it goes.