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[–]Rationalmind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think we should get rid of the concept, it only divides women. I’d rather we have radical feminism include women from all backgrounds with particular emphasis for helping poor women.

[–]cherryfemme 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I’d love if we could get rid of the concept but women aren’t immune from being racist or ableist. There are plenty of libfem and radfem groups that focus mainly on issues that affect white women since they are the majority and ignore issues that don’t affect them. So in this instance I don’t mind a call for some inclusivity since we’re already being divided.

[–]Rationalmind 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think we call for inclusivity but not on the basis of intersectionality which to me is destructive. My viewpoint on this have evolved over about a year. I originally thought, like you, it should be salvaged but in practice I’ve seen it play out to the destruction of the group. Moreover, I think lower self-esteem women will automatically side with the oppressed (trans) even if the “oppressed” is oppressing and manipulating and conning people. It’s too corrosive a concept in practice. We just need to use empathy.

[–]cherryfemme 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems you’re focused on completely ignoring that if you’re racist or ableist you’re not going to include or feel empathy for women of color or disabled women. I’ve witnessed instances of women being dismissive of Black women’s concerns on how accepted we are in gender critical and radfem spaces back when r/gc was around and that looks like it never changed.