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[–]GConly 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

that women should not be made to share toilets and changing rooms with transgender women.

Made to = forced.

Men forcing thier way into women's spaces.

Bit rapey when you think about it.

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[–]Rationalmind 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

600 of her peers from institutions including the LSE and MIT criticised the decision to recognise her services to higher education, calling it a show of support for what they describe as 'harmful rhetoric' and 'transphobic views'.

I’m really starting to think that these people screeching about harmful rhetoric have never been punched before. They are too soft or they were never taught that: “Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never harm me.”

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I agree. But it's not just that these people have never been punched. It seems that many of them have never experienced any serious physical injury or illness or been exposed to any physical hardship. Used to be, most kids during childhood broke bones and spent time in casts, got other injuries that needed emergency hospital care, got wounds that required stitches, suffered numerous bouts of illness that left them bed-bound and incapacitated (measles, chicken pox, rubella, mumps), and underwent surgeries (when I was a kid, tonsillectomies were pretty routine).

Also, in the old days of my youth in the 1950s and 60s, kids routinely were sent to bed without supper, got our mouths washed out with soap, and were hit by parents and teachers using their hands or devices like wooden rulers and yardsticks, paddles, rolled up newspapers and magazines, hardback books, and in the case of the religious fanatics who educated and raised me, with crucifixes and giant rosary beads of the sort worn by RC nuns. Now I'm not recommending a return to the draconian days of corporal punishment - coz getting hit in the face, on the bottom, on the back of the thighs, or on the hands or feet is really unpleasant and can really fuck up kids/people for a long time. Still, such experiences do provide a bit of perspective and an acute awareness that there is a big difference between being verbally insulted and being physically attacked.

One of the most memorable and liberating moments of my life occurred in my 20s when I had an issue with my boss that I needed to confront him about, but I was paralyzed with fear of making him angry - then in a flash I realized that whilst he could respond by yelling at me, dismissing me, demoting me, firing me, the one thing he couldn't do was hit me.

Editing to add: of course in the 1970s, my boss physically could have hit me, but what I meant was that doing so would have been seen as way out of line, contrary to prevailing standards of normal workplace behavior, and also would've constituted assault, a criminal act. Whereas in that era, and during my childhood, a lot of hitting went on in other settings - such as at home, school, on playgrounds, in bars, on the streets, etc - and was considered by many to be normal, acceptable and even justifiable. Which was made clear by often-heard phrases like "spare the rod, spoil the child;" "that kid needs a good spanking;" "this hurts me more than it hurts you;" and "if you don't stop crying, I'm gonna give you something to really cry about."

Today, of course, a lot of hitting and other forms of violence and abuse still goes on amongst intimates in the domestic sphere, unfortunately. But at least adults hitting kids is no longer allowed in schools and sports as it once was.

https://wgntv.com/news/georgia-youth-football-coach-sheriffs-office-employee-fired-after-viral-video-hitting-child-player/

And nowadays parents who hit their kids and are caught at it can expect to get pushback from the press and public, and perhaps at work too, as the case of NFL player Adrian Peterson showed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/11897549/minnesota-vikings-rb-adrian-peterson-was-done-horrific-visuals-child-abuse-case

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/child-abuse-suspension-adrian-peterson-belt-son/story?id=59352482

[–]forwardback 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ohhhh. This is insightful, the differences in childhood experiences between the generations. Thanks. Hmmm. So much to ponder on this.

[–]Rationalmind 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thank you for sharing. This was insightful and gives me a glimpse into understanding. I apologize for our past interactions and I appreciate you sharing this with me and others.

Your insight shows me that we are making progress as humans, but then we need to figure out ways to manage and move forward before too many, like Antifa, cause a backwards slip.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What a kind, lovely thing to say. But now I'm scratching my head over what interactions we've had in the past that you're apologizing for coz I honestly don't recall, LOL. I'm sure whatever you said was of merit and memorable, but I am such a product of the "sticks and stones... but words can never hurt me" generation and ethos that I tend not to remember a lot of verbal altercations I get into with others. Like the proverbial water off a duck's back...

[–]Rationalmind 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yay, I’m glad. Good attitude to have.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Also, a good number of of the people I hold nearest and dearest once thought I was a total idiot and asshole full of crazy ideas - and they said as much to my face! Also, as someone who has parented offspring during/through the often disrespectful teenage years, I am accustomed to getting side-eye and being slagged off for being a clueless dimwit who knows nuthin'. As the humorist I take my user name from once famously said,

When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.