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[–]yousaythosethings 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting. Thanks for this. My first thought is "well, that's just clothing" but I guess back in the day what else did people have to signal any kind of transition? And again, nothing about cross-dressing or trans-anything was part of my Catholic inculcation when I was younger, nor do I hear anything approximating anti-gay religious backlash with respect to transgenderism and transgenderism is a lot more obviously destructive. I still think this is mostly about homophobia as I don't think people had a concept of transsexualism or transgenderism, at least not one that was seen as anything other than extreme homosexuality. This reminds me of the three-article rule whereby in NYC you could get arrested for cross-dressing if as a woman you wore less than 3 articles of "female attire" or as a man you wore less than 3 articles of "male attire."

[–]MezozoicGay 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

or trans-anything was part

And almost never in history either, it is modern trend. And in general, most of this "gender identity" stuff can exist only in English and similar to English languages, in most languages in the world "neo pronouns" and "gender identity" makes no sense and could not be described without importing from English.

[–]yousaythosethings 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed. I speak languages from a few different families and can say that these shenanigans generally do not work in them. Unfortunately, as I've written about on here, genderism has been affecting the way that Spanish is being taught at prominent American universities and it is constraining classroom social interactions. Because woke people often choose Spanish as a foreign language in school, Professors are literally having to make up words and conjugations to avoid hurting "non-binary" people's feelings, but what is the point of them learning a fake language and subjecting every classmate to hearing this bastardized language if that is not how it will ever be spoken outside the classroom?
Not to mention, most of us learned Spanish in school to be assets to our communities. Good luck being any use as a volunteer in low income Spanish-speaking neighborhoods on any initiative and in immigration clinics if you're going to have to control the speech of the significantly more disadvantaged person who needs your help. Like I've handled visas for human trafficking victims from Central America and I'm just picturing some woke, rich Peewee Herman-looking NB trying to control how a sex-trafficked indigenous Pipil woman from El Salvador who speaks the indigenous Pipil language natively and some Spanish as a second language, speaks to the aforementioned NB in Spanish. And are they never going to study abroad? Just a disaster of a situation all around yet they're the ones yelling "colonization!"

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know this comment is several days old now, but out of pure curiosity, which languages do you speak? English and (I presume) Spanish at least?