I just watched a very disturbing video about GRS from Canada

submitted by GCSeedling from self.GenderCritical

No condescension, no jokes, nothing but pity and fear from me this time. In it, the "woman" recently had vaginoplasty done at some Canadian place. The part that bothered me, that had me watching with my mouth agape, was when he said they drugged him with sedatives, gave him an epidural, then did the procedure while he was still awake. This was apparently normal. I hesitated for a long time to blame many issues on doctor's ethics, instead considering it to be the transperson's fault, but bruh. I can't imagine having my (non-existent) dick hacked up while I was awake, but given the "courtesy" of a curtain (like for pregnancy) and a nice window view. That's just messed up, man.

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[–]DustinM 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Makes sense he would want to be conscious for the ultimate act of his paraphiliac obsession. I wonder if they had to give him a vasoconstrictor as that last final erection would probably pose issues with blood loss.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I guess because epidural is so effective, cheaper and safer than general anaesthetic.

When my uncle went in for the snip they offered him local anaesthetic but when he got in the chair he passed out in fear so they decided general was the better option for him.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

they drugged him with sedatives, gave him an epidural,

My guess is this guy was given a spinal, not an epidural - and sedatives to make him sleepy as is customary - but the sedatives didn't fully put him to sleep.

I had a vaginal hysterectomy & oophorectomy with a spinal, by choice because I wanted to avoid general anesthesia. The sedatives put me to sleep initially, but I woke up midway through and for various reasons the anesthesiologist didn't want to administer more sedatives. It was fine.

Millions of women have had C sections with spinals.

There is nothing unethical about using a spinal for surgery on the lower body.

BTW, the methods of anesthesia we take for granted today are recent inventions in history. Surgery was done for thousands of years without it. Only in 1846 did this begin to change. But even after then, surgery was still done without it due to shortages, as in the case of lots of amputations and surgeries done on soldiers in the US Civil War and other military conflicts in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Anesthesia only became a medical specialty in the 20th century.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22583009/

[–]MezozoicGay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Full anesthesia can be hurtful for people with weak health or weak heart, so some people always have surgeries with local anesthesia or spinal anesthesia.

[–]MarkTwainiac 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, it's not just those with "weak health or weak heart" for whom full anesthesia "can be hurtful." Full anesthesia can have all sorts of harmful effects on otherwise healthy people too. Some of these effects - such as depression - aren't evident until long afterwards.

My sense is that the person described in the OP does not know the difference between an epidural and a spinal, similar to the way many TIMs don't know the difference between a vulva and a vagina.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You said that better than I ever could. Sedation and spinal would be the safer option for this type of procedure.

Two doctors in that room, a surgeon and an anesthesiologist, and only one of them was unethical.

[–]MarkTwainiac 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Link please.

[–]GCSeedling[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't feel comfortable posting the actual link, but the name is Maya Henry and the video is 1 month post op.