OK - FUCK AUSTRALIA too. Oz sporting associations just teamed w Gender Lobby to destroy women's sports

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[–]Doobeedoo661 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I was completely deflated the moment I read the news, astounded at the secrecy of it all. However, I will say this. With regards to the AFL, my understanding is they’ve actually made it harder for TW to engage in women’s completion in both the seconds and community level. I suspect this may be the case with a few other contact sports involved.

They’ve extended the elite level gatekeeping across the board, in essence, someone like Hannah Mouncey would no longer qualify to play in his previous local VFL capacity due to his size, strength and a few other measurements exceeding those of the average female player. Don’t get me wrong I’m quietly ropeable these policies were even announced.

I contacted my local Girls Under 16s footy club and inquired about these new measures. The administrator told me that the South East Peninsula clubs will not be caving to any changes. Three years ago they established MIXED teams so that neither the boys nor girls would be inconvenienced by the few trans and non binary participants. I tend to believe the club will fight hard to maintain these changes, especially parents.

It’s early days and I’m suspecting when word really gets out amongst the public, there will be a hell of a lot of noise about this. I’m even seeing trans people openly disagreeing with these policies because they believe there is in fact more gatekeeping.

We here in Victoria, the sporting capital of Australia (I sound like a goofy politician), will fight hard to preserve the dignity of girls and women’s sport and we’ll apply pressure at a grass roots level they’ve not seen before, girl athletes futures are at stake and we’re not going to be the generation that stymied their potential.

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I know a lot of Australians, which is why I'm shocked the associations did this - I found Australians outside of the cities to be completely not PC and sports are a huge deal. I'm surprised the gender mob thought they could get away with it.

I did read some of the new guidelines, including I think the one you mentioned that might make it harder for TiMs to compete. But in tennis it looks like it will be easier, right?

It really irks me that the genderists are, as usual, doing this behind the shield of LGB, even though LGB has nothing to do with this, and the backlash will encompass LGB too.

[–]Doobeedoo661 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look, Victoria, the home of the AFL, is a very lefty, latte sipping state, as is our Premier and he is a humongous trans supporter, but Victoria is also aggressively sport inclined. Additionally, it’s not as rural as other states but you’d be correct in suggesting outside of the cities it’s rather conservative throughout Australia, we have a conservative federal government at the moment, but the landscape is changing.

The problem we have in Australia is the lack of media attention towards the conflicting interests with women and trans rights. Politicians, much like free to air media, simply won’t touch the topic. COVID has usurped much of the media’s attention which is expected and people simply aren’t up to speed with what is happening in women’s sport. In addition, all of the televised women’s sports competitions are devoid of any TW presence so nothing to complain about yet.

If I had to wager a bet, these kinds of amendments that are secretly imposed by sporting organisations will exacerbate the ever so small resentment towards Pride and the wider LGB communities association with sport, which would be a shame.

With regards to tennis, Steve Simons, CEO of the women’s tennis association would welcome transgender players in accordance with the IOC standards, I’d even go so far as to say there may in fact be a ranked TW player at the moment, don’t quote me on that, so I guess OZ tennis would fall in line sadly.

Ultimately this fight may have to fall in the laps of the female athletes themselves. A United NO would be a great place to start and adamantly refuse any compromise. Not only do I believe Australia as a nation would support them, but the entire bloody world would.

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I completely believe that Australia is more than up to the challenge to push back on the Gendernaut and sink it. And I hope that, as awareness grows, female athletes all over the world stand together and scream NO while refusing to participate.

[–]jelliknight 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, because we were never consulted. It's been kept very quiet.

[–]woodrup 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is it crazy to think about women athletes forming a female-only league (whatever sport we’re talking about)? Men have created alternate leagues on occasions, to protest what they saw as unfair treatment. (Football and golf come to mind...) It’s really expensive, and ultimately fails, but I think the point is always to send a shiver through the establishment that things are effed up. In that, they generally succeed. (money, contracts, etc.) Sports management hates, hates, hates, hates a public row, with schism as a real possibility. I think women could reclaim their various sports by simply saying “no”. “We’re going to start our own league(s).” Greg Norman once shook professional golf to its roots by suggesting golfers get paid for exhibition tournaments that paid $zero to the golfers while making $millions for TV, sponsors, etc. etc. He even tried to create an alternate tour recently. Football has also experienced its “alternate league” attempts. They may not be successful, but the front office would quake in fear at the thought of women trying on the Greg Norman hat. (Yes, a male member mansplaining sports here. I know what it sounds like. But when wealthy men get pissed off at something and feel like they’re in the right, they start breaking things. When have women’s sports been in a better position to do the same?) I can’t stand what’s happening to women’s sports. I was a serious athlete for years (running) and I get really angry about what’s going on. And, in the end I realize women athletes would have a harder time pulling it off because the front office would pull the “woke” card. Sorry, I don’t know what the answer is.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think these are all-female leagues that are going to be opened up.

Would you be interested in a sub that would be for men who are interested in this topic to discuss it with GC women? I think that we need to reach men and discuss these issues with them because we will need men's support and numbers to get our rights back, but I also respect that s/gendercritical is a sub for women. Let me know and I'll think about starting a new sub for GC men and women.

[–]ekitten 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've seen TRAs claim that trans women ARE female though, so all-female leagues will be targeted as well :/

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's actually a new Twitter account that's keeping track of all the times trans demands activists say that trans women are female. I will find the Twitter account and post it here so we all have proof, because they constantly lie about their stance.

[–]jelliknight 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where do you think women's leagues came from? Many have been grass roots organized by women. It's just that now we're losing legal and organisational standing to say no to men.

They do need to say no, and to make a public spectacle if they're pressured. Unfortunately we are still having to fight to get recognition so threatening to deny the establishment the benefit of women's sports won't get us anywhere. Unlike male sports, we had to kick the door down and force our way in. Us leaving isn't a threat, it's what the establishment wants.

What they need to do it all go on to the field, and then sit down and refuse to play. Same with female lifters competing against Laurel Hubbard - take the stage, and then refuse to lift. It's a big personal cost to women who've already had to fight too hard to get where they are. It'd be good if the men supported us by doing the same thing.