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[–]MezozoicGay 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It would be nice if it was actually LGB education, however, it is mostly TQ+ education about genders and it is pretty homophobic, at least from the lessons I saw. It is more "Anti-LGB pro-TQ+ lessons" in reality. LGB must drop the T.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

BEB, I don't think your title accurately represents the reality of what's going on with this in the UK, and I think it's inflammatory too. In my view, we all should be aiming for more light and less heat on this sub. After all, every post here is being read - and many are being screen shotted - by people who want to make all GC people out to be a bunch of homophobic, transphobic, right wing reactionaries and bigots aligned with Bible thumpers.

Also "CLOWN WORLD"????? Really? I hope I am not the only one here to be very uncomfortable with the use of such a loaded expression on this sub, one that originated with the alt-right and 4chan and is pretty much a "dog whistle" meant to signal USA-style conservatism.

I further find it offensive that you'd castigate an entire country with such a slur. Makes me wonder where you live that you feel so comfortable throwing such stones at England.

Now to the heart of the matter.

This is the UK government's guidance document outlining the new rules that this month have gone into place for teaching about Relationships and Sex Education; it was published in 2019 and immediately met with controversy and objections:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/908013/Relationships_Education__Relationships_and_Sex_Education__RSE__and_Health_Education.pdf

Here's a set of FAQs about it the government released in April, 2019 and last updated 9 July 2020:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/relationships-education-relationships-and-sex-education-rse-and-health-education-faqs

The UK Parliament's more recent briefing document about it, published in March 2020, can be downloaded here:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn06103/

To meet the government's new rules, a number of different groups and individuals have come up with new RSE curricula, "tool kits" and websites for schools and LAs to consider and possibly use and incorporate into their official policies. Some of the curricula, tool kits and websites are indeed dodgy, promote exposing young children to all sorts of inappropriate behaviors and info, including what you call "Porn Hub sex acts" and damaging gender ideology. And in a number of cases, local authorities and school administrators went ahead willy-nilly and put their official stamp of approval of these dodgy materials and said yes, this is what we'll teach in schools.

But there has already been a massive amount of pushback on all this. Child safeguarding specialists and others in the UK are going over all the proposed teaching materials with fine-toothed combs to point out the problems, and are challenging them with the powers that be. A number of toolkits and websites have been withdrawn, and a lot of the proposed curricula has been sent back for serious revision or rejected outright.

An organization has been formed in the UK called Safe Schools Alliance to deal with this issue, but there are many other orgs such as women's rights groups and LGB Alliance who are making sure Britain's already robust child safeguarding principles remain in place and are shored up rather than dismantled. On the SSA:

The Safe Schools Alliance is a group of concerned parents, grandparents, teachers, governors, health professionals, education professionals, and carers from more than 30 local education authority areas in the UK. We are from a wide range of backgrounds and have no religious or political affiliation.

Many of our members and supporters are lesbian, gay or bisexual or parents, carers or grandparents of LGB or trans-identifying young people. This motivates us to ensure that schools keep every child safe and are inclusive of all.

The SSA campaign is focused on working with schools and educators to ensure that school policies meet the safeguarding needs of all students whilst taking into account the protected characteristics of the Equality Act 2010. We endeavour to provide clarity on the law and offer unbiased, evidence-based guidance and support where conflict between protected characteristics arises.

The physical, mental and emotional well-being of children is absolutely paramount. A collaborative approach with schools is essential to ensure a safe and supportive environment for children.

https://safeschoolsallianceuk.net/who-we-are/

Posie Parker interviews Tracy Shaw of SSA here: https://youtu.be/bNNYRUNeIjk

Sonya Poulton interviews Tanya Carter of SSA here:https://youtu.be/DbT7YO7RFcU

Many prominent people in the UK government are on the case too, including Baroness Nicholson of the HoL and MP Jackie Doyle-Price of the HoC.

I think the British people are doing an admirable, quite effective job standing up and saying "No!" to the ideologies and inappropriate material and lessons that the queer theorists, gender vendors and kinksters promote and are trying to get into schools.

Finally, even under the new RSE guidance that was introduced last year and immediately raised concerns, the British government never said kids are to be taught "Porn Hub sex acts but not biological sex" as you say.

[–]artetolife 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Better than having kids learn about LGBT+ from the likes of tumblr and /r/lgbt. I don't see anything in that article about pornhub either. This post seems homophobic.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

From my understanding from reading British GC feminists, this sex ed isn't the normal sex ed that you might have had in school: it's about being on the "gender spectrum" as opposed to being a biological sex, very graphic, inappropriate for the ages being taught and being pushed under the banner of LGB. So when the backlash comes, LGB will pay for this madness.

The same thing is happening in California, which apparently is a testing ground for the rest of the nation. I was told that Abigail Shrier writes about the sex ed being taught in California in her book, and I do know that parents' groups in California are pushing back.

But mandatory sex ed of this type I would fight too if I had kids in school. Some parents don't allow their kids on the internet unsupervised, and so many kids would not be exposed to rimming and how to penetrate an anus with fingers when their parents feel they are too young to know these things.

I know it's hard to believe in this world of instant, graphic porn, but whole generations grew up not knowing, nor wanting to know, how to rim. Waves hand!

[–]MezozoicGay 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

In Russia and some other CiS countries, news are showing transgenders and porn-pride parades and saying "all gays are like that, hate them".

Similar backlash will be in western world too, after Trans Inc. will be uncovered - just because "LGBTQ+" include "LGB" - people will attack LGB too, not realizing that LGB suffers the most from TQ+ crowd, that all lesbian spaces are destroyed and lesbians are pushed out any LGBTQ+ events, that gay men spaces are constantly attacked and "it is better to have straight girl than gay boy" is popularized. So victim will be blamed for "being accomplice". LGB Alliance already trying to go away from TQ+ crowd and dissasociate LGB from TQ+. LGB want to live calmly like everyone else and not be hated, LGB is all about sexuality and biology, while TQ+ are about gender expression, about changing everyone and about everyone noticing how special they are - literally opposite.

when their parents feel they are too young to know these things

Technically, sex education should not teach those thigns at all. And if they are teaching kids those things - it is some paedo pervert made a program.