Ah yes, the archetype of "woman" "peaceful protester" (per Andy Ngo)

submitted by jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator from twitter.com

sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun
you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I had asked this on r/GenderCritical before as well, but do critiques of trans ideology necessarily have to come from a RadFem perspective? Granted, women disproportionately bear the negative impacts of implementing these policies, so perhaps a GC critique is the most salient generally, outside of specific topics e.g. a pediatrician speaking out against child-transing.

[–]BEB 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Because these same men (Ngo's base) also think that things were better back when women didn't have any rights and/or that women complain too much about not having rights and point to their boss or congressperson being a woman as an example. A lot of them are true, deep-seated women-haters who also want us barefoot and pregnant and chained to a stove.

But I agree that critiques of trans ideology or any ideology can and should come from many different perspectives.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

A lot of them are true, deep-seated women-haters who also want us barefoot and pregnant and chained to a stove.

Barefoot, pregnant, and chained to a stove is still better than being made into a TRA skinsuit, no? Bit of a generalization of Ngo's base, who I'd characterize instead as mere free speech, free markets advocates,

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I read Ngo's twitter a lot and would characterize SOME of his base as what you said, and others as just angry men ready to go to war with anyone because they feel so disenfranchised.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

just angry men ready to go to war with anyone because they feel so disenfranchised.

This could describe Gamergate, the Proud Boys, BLM, and Antifa equally. I think different people feel disenfranchised for different reasons, but I appreciate Ngo more for his tenacity to cover the instigation in the face of consistent violence.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with your first sentence, except for maybe BLM, whose recent protesters seem to be rich white kids.

I think that Ngo is very brave in putting himself out there, but he follows a long line of yellow journalists, making $$$ out of inflaming the masses.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

BLM, whose recent protesters seem to be rich white kids.

lol yes, this 100%

making $$$ out of inflaming the masses.

Not unlike Tucker Carlson (or even his former MSNBC colleague Rachel Maddow), yes. But then again Tucker purportedly has the highest-rated cable network (lol) news show. It's not like the events being covered aren't happening. Andy does editorialize, but he's not materially changing the underlying reporting.

[–]BEB 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have actually interacted with Maddow, at the height of her popularity. I think she's kind of full of herself, so am not a fan girl, but I don't think she's evil at all, unlike say, Sean Hammity and Tucker Carlson.

I'm pretty sure I caught Andy in some fibs lately. But I don't have the time to go back and find them.