Most people are sane

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[–]jelliknight 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

And the people who do go along with it are often so easily converted. Regarding the law change in victoria (allowing any man to self ID as a female with only a statutory declaration) one of my friends posted "what's the big deal? It's not like it affects you, GET OVER IT!" or something along those lines, so i replied with a list of "ways this change affects you" and that's all it took to take her from the height of trans inclusion to the peak of radfem mountain. One comment of the top of my head. Even the people who most vocally support gender really just haven't thought about it much.

I too love menstrual cup review videos and have found them really useful. One of my favorite channels was a quite young woman (late teens i think) comparatively reviewing the different cups in such a frank way that even I was startled. It's just so unusual, but so refreshing.

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They really are. A friend of mine was on the JKR bashing train like everyone else and she admitted she hadn't actually read JKR's tweets. All I had to do was say something along the lines of 'if you read what she said, all she said is that the lived experience of trans women is different from natal women, and that the experience of growing up female is unique to natal women. She also said that lesbians and gays shouldn't be called transphobic for not wanting to sleep with a trans person, as sexual orientation is based on sex, not gender presentation.'

That was all it took for her to like my comment.

[–]jjdub7Gay Male Guest Commentator 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

An effecive way to fight back would be to organize a coalition to change their own ID gender markers as often as the office will allow in order to clog up the system and force the legislature to acknowledge the impracticality (and frankly, the lie).

[–]jelliknight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. I'll change mine every 12 months just to show how fucking stupid it is.

[–]our_team_is_winning 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"what's the big deal? It's not like it affects you, GET OVER IT!" or something along those lines, so i replied with a list of "ways this change affects you" and that's all it took to take her from the height of trans inclusion to the peak of radfem mountain.

Wow I am impressed. Wish you'd been there with me when I lost two long-time female friends, one of whom argued I should have to prove I'm a woman to enter the bathroom then.

[–]threefingersam 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My friends are like this. They likely gave little thought about the implications of the trans movement before hopping on that train.