Do you guys think men and women have different brains?

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[–]BEB 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Soh has been on Joe Rogan (I know, I know) at least two times, including doing publicity for her latest book. Those are long interviews, if you want to hear more of what she has to say.

I have only seen a bit of her Rogan interviews and read her articles, and I feel that she seems a bit of the Pick Me and I'm- A-Hot-Cool-Smart-Girl type, i.e., she seems to want to appeal to the menz so straddles the feminist borderline. IMO she also wants to create a little controversy in a self-promoting type of way.

However, other people think she's a guru, and she's very intelligent (edited to say that "I've read that she's very intelligent") so, for me, I need to read more of her work.

[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'd seen Soh on Rogan & other platforms previously, & though I found her muddled then, I was willing to credit her with being very intelligent, which is why I pre-ordered her book. But the book did not strike me as the work of someone of great intelligence. Nor does it offer any new info or insight about her own field or about the controversies over gender/sex more generally.

Also, whilst she concedes & documents the very real threats to girls & women's safety, dignity, privacy & peace of mind that have been, and will be, caused by allowing males into female spaces, this is what she concludes (page 208):

Ultimately, I believe in live and let live. If a transgender individual is in the presence of someone who appears to be uncomfortable, whether it's in a bathroom, locker room, or shelter, let it be up to the trans person to decide what's appropriate.

This strikes me as a TIM supremacist position.

[–]BEB 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

OMG, that Soh quote!

"Live and let live" except if you're a woman. She's a Men's Rights Activist in GC-lite clothing, as I suspected.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She’s not GC if she thinks gender is innate. She’s TRA lite.

[–]MarkTwainiac 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Soh is not at all GC. She believes gender is innate, is very anti-feminist, & embraces all sorts of regressive sexist stereotypes. Says in her book all females except for super-butch lesbians have a natural liking for long hair & being "pink princesses;" that enjoying "talking on the phone" & TV talk shows are female traits; and it's abnormal for boys to like & collect stuffed animals & other plush toys & to take ballet lessons.

By Soh's reckoning, Alexander Graham Bell, Mark Twain*, Steve Jobs, Dick Cavett, Johnny Carson, William F Buckley, David Lettermen, Jimmy Kimmel, Theodore Roosevelt, A.A. Milne, Jim Henson, Seth McFarlane, Mark Wahlberg, Mikael Baryshnikov, Patrick Swayze, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Tupac Shakur, Mads Mikkelsen, Jamie Bell, Christian Bale & tons of other men who were into chatting on phones, TV talk shows, plush toys, teddy bears & stuffed animals, and/or ballet were/are somehow "feminine" & probably gay. When, in fact, AFAIK all the men I just listed are/were straight, and all except Seth McFarlane & Tupac married women & fathered children.

*In case people don't know: Mark Twain was one of the first private citizens in the world to have a telephone. He had one installed in his home in CT in 1877, shortly after Alexander Graham Bell first demoed the invention. Later he famously complained there was no night phone service where he lived, & that operators frequently cut him off when he used his phone, as he habitually did, to practice saying swear words.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She sounds like an idiot. She’s definitely TRA lite. so women in countries that still don’t have access to telephones or TV aren’t women?

The bigger question I have is why do we keep mentioning her and talking about her if she isn’t GC? Sounds like a nobody really.

[–]SameOldBS 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't think she came across as particularly bright in any of the interviews I've watched with her. Just not very intellectually vigorous.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That was my impression from seeing her in interviews & a couple of on-stage "debate" type events. But since I kept hearing about how smart she was, and about her being a PhD & a "scientist," I thought perhaps I'd just seen her on her bad days - or there was something I wasn't getting. So I pre-ordered her book. Reading it left me underwhelmed. She certainly lacks intellectual rigor, is confused & confusing, & a terrible writer.

[–]SameOldBS 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! I've watched her too and thought she had exactly that vibe.