Why Trans Identified Males are not seen as a threat by many, and the females that are OK with them.

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[–][deleted] 22 insightful - 4 fun22 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

One of my friends is a white girl and one of her friends is a TIM that is CONSTANTLY touching her inappropriately. When I ask her why she doesn't speak up, she says it's because they're both women and women touching women is okay. TIMs know that their perceived femininity and also victim status has provided more gains than losses and that's why they do what they do. Even the ugliest scummiest man can get access to hot girls just because he wears dresses. If women asks why he appears to have a boner... it's just "gender euphoria".

[–]Ossidiana 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Further demonstration that these TIMs are doing the age-old animal kingdom strategy of: if you're an omega male, disguise yourself as a woman and try to sexually assault them before the alpha or even beta males show up. It's just an old animal mating strategy, and it's the reason why it's always creepy, unattractive outcast losers who suddenly "identify as lesbian women".

[–]our_team_is_winning 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

a TIM that is CONSTANTLY touching her inappropriately. When I ask her why she doesn't speak up, she says it's because they're both women and women touching women is okay.

Ok, a lot of us women are comfortable with another woman brushing our hair, or squeezing our hand, accidentally brushing against our chest to get past us, etc. but I am sure none of us reaches over and touches a female friend (friend, not lover) on her breast or puts our hands inside her thighs or something. It sounds like this friend of yours knows this is not about women touching women --- this is about her letting a TIM take advantage of her because she's afraid of insulting a TIM. She's putting her own fear of "being a transphobe" ahead of her personal safety.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah it's probably that too and she's afraid to admit it. Thankfully, she's been spending less time with him since quarantine. Hopefully, that'll wake her up to how messed the friendship is.

[–]Delia 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It does not matter who its doing it, if it is inappropriate touching it is just that.

[–]nothingtosee 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was actually the cause of my "peak trans" moment. I started hanging out more with a TIM and they were allll up in my space. And seriously, it would've been weird to have a female friend this up in my space. But this felt 100% like what it was... a male-bodied person with five inches and sixty pounds+ on me, who was obviously attracted to me, using what excuse they could to be snuggly with me. It took forever to get the courage to tell them to stop in any fashion and literally I just told them I was in trauma therapy and needed more body space. This person is part of my husband's main friend group so if it were just me, sure, let people think I'm transphobic. But I felt very aware that calling out this person in a not-perfectly-delicate way could have lost my husband his whole friend group. My trans-movement support broke with that.

[–]tuesday 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One of my friends is a white girl and one of her friends is a TIM that is CONSTANTLY touching her inappropriately.

That's a thing that a lot of gay men do, when they are in their woman-only friendship circle. It's a way of establishing dominance. Who is allowed to touch who inappropriately, and who is not allowed to object.