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[–]anfd 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

This is tricky. It reminds me of this piece of news from 2010:

A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

Is this guy's sentence ok? I don't think it is, and I would say no trans person should be sentenced (in a court of law) either for pulling a stunt like this. It wouldn't be like not telling about having an STD or something.

It's another matter whether it's good or sensible behaviour one should engage in (I don't think so), but should it be illegal..? I would say no.

[–]Realwoman 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think if you withhold information that will lead to the other person not consenting, you're taking away their consent and sex without consent is rape.

[–]Eurowoman24 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean I'm inclined to think it maybe should be? when I see them talk about this kind of crap I can't help but think of friends who though are open-minded are against this for themselves for religious purposes. Even those for who religion comes into play if someone isn't into that and figures out the person tried to trick them pre-sex I'd consider that assault. tbh got much more respect for trans folk who disclose this, not disclosing it feels like men who don't disclose HIV, lie about wanting anything serious just to bang.. it just feels gross

[–]Eurowoman24 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

as for the example you mentioned.. it seems extreme but in some religions I'm pretty sure some people are looking to exclusively persue something with someone of the same faith and if they are tricked like that they can be seen/see themselves as dirty/used by their communities.

[–]PassionateIntensity 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the case of sex, I definitely think they should be. I fail to see how this isn't criminal:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/2973791/carlos-delacruz-falkirk-penis-sex-attack-court/