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[–]vitunrotta[S] 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

THIS. A lot of feminists tend to think that by saying "religious people need to have their rights as well" means that the people who criticize certain aspects of (mainly Abrahamic) religions are trying to ostracize the followers of any such religion. Nuh-uh, hun. You grew up in a secular household? Cool for you. Not all of us did, though. A lot you people have zero idea. And - this might be a wild idea for many - criticizing a movement, ideology, religion or other belief is not fucking PHOBIA. It's common sense.

I'd wager that those feminists - which is a pitifully small number nowadays - who speak against any misogynist religion - are not condemning the people in whichever religion. They are questioning, condemning and criticizing the fucking religion itself - and of course those who uphold it (umm, duh, MEN. And yes, also the women who were successfully brainwashed.)

Having grown up in a sect I can honestly say it is NOT a fucking choice and usually going against it means you will be cast out. I would have loved to have someone speak openly against this goddamn sect I grew up in - instead of having y'all copping out by some stupid ass "uGh I diDn'T LivE thAt Live sO I wiLl shut Up hurr durrr" reasons. I was looked down upon, made fun of, ostracized, bullied - by my classmates, teachers, friends, friends' parents... all because of something I never even fucking chose. All because I was a "part of that weird sect." And fucking NOBODY asked if I was doing okay, if things were alright at home, if I needed help. Nobody. So I have my very realistic reasons for condemning people who think "aaw religion!" and then looking away like it's some kind of a cop-out. UGH. It's not.

Nobody chooses to be a hardcore (pick-which-ever-Abrahamic-religion-follower) at the ripe age of fucking ZERO. Nobody.

No. Fucking. Body. It is pure brainwashing and indoctrination since day 1 and it is wrong and harmful and extremely misogynistic pretty much 99.9999% of the time. I am in awe - not the good one, the shit one - when I see my feminist sisters would even try to defend this kind of shit. Take a good look at yourselves and then take another, BETTER look at yourselves and then - maybe then - come and give me a lesson about religious violence. I'm so fucking done.

DONE.

[–]SameOldBS 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm applauding every word of that, vitunrotta

[–]vitunrotta[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Glad you managed to make sense of it, lol. Sometimes writing while upset (...and with my mental condition, which I won't disclose) ends up in incoherent rambles.

[–]Realwoman 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for this