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[–]MarkTwainiac 38 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 0 fun39 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

This story is about one of the Antifa members arrested in Portland. As the story says, many of the males being arrested are claiming a female gender identity - and thus their arrests and charges are being recorded in the crime stats as female. If they are convicted, these male crimes will be counted as female crimes in the official statistics. This will make it more difficult to rely on crime stats to justify why girls and women need female only spaces - which is one of the reasons these creepy men are doing this.

[–]WrongToy[S] 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

This journo has been pulling mugshots of arrestees: https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

They're all white. A lot of them are in privileged colleges. And among them are a disproportionate number of trans and nonbinaries.

And they are Antifa-informed. There's no other way to say it.

[–]Rationalmind 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Portland is majority white, so that’s not surprising. Interesting about the trans and nonbinaries. Particularly the non-binary fact, I wonder if that shows the type prone to extremism. The trans bit I chalk up to a mental disorder.

I think what’s interesting is that both people I’ve seen mentioned in the media have gone to Reed.

[–]WrongToy[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

There's one that Ngo says is a current graduate student of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, which publishes the Covid-19 data.

You'd think that in the middle of a pandemic engaging in boisterous crowd behavior resulting in one being arrested (and potentially crowded) is a bad idea. And an indulgent one given that person's field of expertise. She might as well be promoting cruise ships.

[–]Rationalmind 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yes, I agree. I looked it up and Oregon’s coronavirus cases have gone through the roof since the protests, but as far as I can tell, no media is linking them to the protests. It’s very dangerous when public health statistics are manipulated because the people collecting the data are ideologues.

[–]WrongToy[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Yeah, did you see that Lincoln County OR actually initially banned POC from wearing masks because "oppression"?

WHAT???

The commissioner who spearheaded that just happened to be a TIM.

[–]Rationalmind 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I heard that on one of Benjamin Boyce’s interviews, yes. But I did not know the commissioner who spearheaded was a TiM. Well, I suppose that confirms my theory that the ideologues who believe in the trans cult are racists.

[–]WrongToy[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Well according to (TRIGGER WARNING CONSERVATIVE SITE WHO AGAIN WROTE ABOUT JY IN 2018) yeah, it's a TIM

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2020/06/27/trans-oregon-official-who-created-mask-exemption-for-poc-said-at-gender-confirmation-i-couldnt-wear-this-mask-one-more-day-n583255

Oregon has given us perhaps the most 2020 thing of 2020. The county commissioner who created the exemption to the mandatory mask order for people of color is a trans activist. Her famous quote, while completing “gender confirmation,” was, “I couldn’t wear this mask one more day.”

[–]Rationalmind 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Hahaha thanks for the link. I don't want to speak for everyone, but imo you don't need to give a trigger warning when it is a conservative site. I am very liberal, but I am also able to parse facts from media bias so don't feel persuaded by any particular source.

This TiM should not be in a leadership role. He had a midlife crisis and appropriated womanhood. Where the TiM says this:

“I’d say our office has heard from at least a dozen people of color. You know one of them said aren’t you aware that the virus disproportionately impacts communities of color? And I said oh yeah absolutely. But also the same people saying that you know they fear an unintended consequence of a well-intentioned policy. Let’s say a person of color comes into our courthouse and chooses not to wear a face covering, they’re actually more likely to be harassed and profiled than if they don’t.

First, the part where he's aware that communities of color are impacted at a greater rate by the virus. This TiM dismisses actual voices of color over the safety concerns they have for their community if exposed to the virus at a greater rate when they don't need to wear masks. Not going to lie, that feels to me like the TiM is passively advocating for their genocide? I might be overblowing what he's saying, but the underlying message is that he's okay with putting their lives on the line because they could in theory be harassed if they wore a mask. At the bare minimum, he's playing a white savior role.

Second, when the TiM commissioner stereotypes people of color hypothetically going to the courthouse and then being subject to harassment on the basis of race. That feels very person of color criminal stereotype to me? I'd like to think that he didn't intentionally stereotype them as criminals, but the hypocrisy is mind blowing.

[–]WrongToy[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It's our Rule 9 (here) adaptation of Rule 8. The old community was really split on Rule 8 so this was seen as a compromise, put up whatever link but just tell people who don't want to read it.

What I see here with the TIM is him appropriating everything to make it all about him. Same as that TIM on the City Council in MPLS who started singing "Amazing Grace." How performative. How woke.

I'll be honest, if ever I voted for a TIM/TIF I'd expect them to take a reasonable position on it like Miranda, Rose of Dawn, maybe even Blaire White. Not Strangio, not Grimm, not this TIM or probably 95 percent of them in public view.

[–]Thatstealthygal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It sounds awfully PATERNALISTIC. "Oh black people, you don't understand your own oppression or your own needs. Let me whitesplain them to you."

[–]our_team_is_winning 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He expected to see a wig and a ton of makeup looking back at him all his life? WHY do the people of Oregon play along with this?

<Bill Hall sat in a beauty salon near Portland and ordered the full work-up: beard cover, foundation, eyeshadow, mascara and lipstick in a bold pink. And for the final touch, a short auburn wig coaxed over his own graying brown hair.

Hall spun around to face the mirror. He saw Claire for the first time.

An incredible feeling of rightness settled in, a kind of peace that had eluded the Lincoln County commissioner for many of his 58 years. It was so much more than the surface trappings.

“This is what I expected to see looking back at me my entire life,” he thought, “and now it is finally real.”>

[–]Thatstealthygal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That just makes me feel sad for him.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've been following Andy Ngo on this for a while, too. Depressing to see a Hopkins public health student caught up in it.

[–]Finnegan7921 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not very surprising though, in NYC two highly educated lawyers who both attended top notch schools got busted for tossing molotov cocktails at police cars. Way to flush it all down the drain.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes. Also, Portland is an interesting study in the civic and municipal caving to these tactics -- this has been going on for a year, year and a half now.

[–]Rationalmind 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Caving to what tactics?

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly what the OP is describing -- Antifa-informed street protests fueled by groups with large numbers of TRAs, NBs, white students from pricey liberal arts colleges, a significant number of them from out of state. Likewise the combative presence of "Proud Boys" and conservative groups showing up to provoke and engage Antifa. MSM wouldn't touch it until very late 2019.

[–]Rationalmind 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow, didn’t know that. History repeats itself.

[–]Thatstealthygal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are they doing this because they are trans or because they're trying to muddy the waters and make it harder to identify them?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

what are they being arrested for?

[–]WrongToy[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ngo's on Twitter. He listed what everyone was arrested for.

[–]Rationalmind 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I saw a pic of that man kicking a fit and the news said he uses “she/they” pronouns. Of course one of the protestors arrested by the federal government is a TiF. Not only is that guy a TiF, but he goes to Reed. Reed is as insane as Evergreen, but with wealthy kids. I hope he gets help for his anger, depression, and mental problems.

[–]WrongToy[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously. And the only ones who are going to touch this are conservative or libertarian pubs. Just because they are doesn't mean they are wrong.

A Post Millennial reporter happened to be hanging out on KF when Yaniv's address got leaked. That's how she broke the story that he had been arrested, because while RCMP wouldn't comment on names they felt they had to on addresses. Once that story came out the rest of the Canadian mainstream ran it along with others around the world.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh lord. Good to know about Reed -- I thought (hoped?) Evergreen was uniquely fringe.

[–]Rationalmind 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In terms of the students holding administration captive and having a protest about seemingly nothing, Evergreen is not fringe in that regard, no. Many college campuses experienced protests/rioting by students during and after the time Evergreen did.

In terms of the students who are extreme, angry hippies holding the administration captive thing, Evergreen is more unique in that sense as it’s a liberal arts college that doesn’t provide grades and has a different model of schooling its students. Reed is Evergreen’s compatriot as far as the extreme angry hippies at a liberal arts college that uses an experimental approach to teaching students. For Reed, you just add in entitled children of the wealthy. Reed never had the notoriety Evergreen did, but they make sporadic headlines for lunatic behavior by the students.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is sad to hear. Seriously -- I'm so glad I graduated when I did.

[–]OrneryStruggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wait, Evergreen doesn't have a grading system? Then how could people go on to grad or professional school?

But yeah, I had internet friends back in the day who went to Reed and I think they were all trans and had multiple mental disorders, I think they had dorm assignments based on interests and stuff like that. I think HP fans wanted to go there because they thought it was like Hogwarts.

[–]Finnegan7921 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The first thing I noticed was that hideous mullet.

[–]WrongToy[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it was like 1983, but much worse looking.

[–]LoganBlade 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Antifa are terrorists.

[–]CleverNickName 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

can we ... not?

[–]WrongToy[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Here's another interesting one:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1284528796721451008

The hairline and facial features are, well. And I think I see some five o clock shadow above the lip.

[–]Rationalmind 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good point, the photo is definitely of a man and not a woman.

The guy in other tweet, in the video, is either mentally retarded or on drugs. Something is not right with him.

[–]WrongToy[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ya plus "Riley" is 6 feet tall. The average height of a woman is about 5'4.

If they're held in custody for any period you know those tims are going in with the women.

[–]WrongToy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Unfortunately there are more common sense articles about this issue on RT, breitbart, etc.. I do now think there’s a segment of antifa that just wants to smash things and terrorize people... and think there’s an overlap between them and the trans extremists, particularly after reading that trans-extremist manifesto that someone linked on here. I think there’s a segment of BLM infested by them as well. What pisses me off is how people are using the rights of African Americans as a cover to push their own personal agendas and as an excuse to smash religious statues and vandalize things.
Guarantee you; for example, the corporations who promise to give more jobs and opportunities to minorities in the name of BLM will simply go and hand all those jobs to rich white transwomen.

I should say, I don’t like fascism. I don’t like the fact that police in some areas are extremely biased against minorities. I can see legit reasons to protest peacefully and legally (within reason) in regards to those issues. Just wanted to put that out there. I think these movements are being hijacked with people who have sinister motives.

[–]WrongToy[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I agree fully. But it's not just them.

Elsewhere, like on an NFL board that opened a politics annex, I argue politics regularly with mostly men. Some seriously think that women have this "pass" in getting over on men in potential sex-harassment situations. But these same leftist men will bend themselves in a pretzel about racial injustice. These guys are overwhelmingly white and liberal and have assigned it to themselves that they know best.

In fact when a Black guy came in to say, "hey man I'm not down with BLM as an organization," one white guy boomer gave it to that Black guy and CALLED HIM A RACIST. Because this white guy worked at Jack in the Box as a youth and they had Black friends on their HS team. So they are against oppression. This same white guy goes around thinking women must have an advantage because they'll "always win" at sex harassment.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? If not just substitute "trans" for your favorite oppressed category, which they think they are.

I'm increasingly nervous about the election. I can't vote for Trump. But I also don't trust anyone who's pronoun stanning. I understand the gist of intersectional theory but am not a fan of it's current application. I'm in the position of WEB Debois where it's so disgusting I might exercise my right to not take part in that particular contest, as I see the same means to an end. No one cares about the means anymore. The ends being for yet another cadre of powerful males and their handmaidens to lord things over, cancel people over, what they don't like.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. I feel like I’m the target person to “hate” at this moment: a “Karen”.

It doesn’t require much to be considered a “TERF” or a “Karen”.

These woke dudebros likely don’t bend over backwards to argue on behalf of black women, I’m sure. It’s all turned into a man’s movement.

[–]Rationalmind 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are vulnerable to hijacking because they are leaderless demonstrations. It requires a lot of people to recognize and stop the crazies from taking over.

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The BLM organization itself is a TRA organization (read their about on their website), and antifa is similar in that regard although they have the cover of "not being organized" (they are). Antifa definitely does operate as a terrorist org even if a lot of the hangers-on to antifa are just regular kids who care about social justice.

It is pretty par for the course for people with sinister motives to hijack or seek cover under organizations that 1. promote anonymity during violent altercations, 2. get a lot of funding to "disrupt" society in various ways, 3. don't have official leaders participating in/leading protests and thus make it hard to hold anyone accountable for the actions of the group.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just read in “Irreversible Damage” that Washington state’s medicaid covers sex change drugs, surgery, etc.. just thought I’d throw that out there. Where will people get their precious estrogen if they government collapses? Just wondering...