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[–]censorshipment 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I agree with every word! One of the first things I noticed in Reddit's women-centric subs, when I created my first account in 2019, was Redditors agreeing with me but complaining about my tone... and downvoting me because of my tone even though they agreed. Why is tone more important than the statement being made?

"It's not what you say but how you say it" is often said to me (by other women) and false accusations of me being a man, in online spaces, are rampant. Guess I need an etiquette class. Lmao

[–]Camberian[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh yes. I get that accusation (being a man) also quite often. And the tone one, too.

But the tone is usually just factual and neutral. I've been once accused of having a horrid tone for stating things in the manner of "1+1=2" or "Albert Einstein was a genius". Those are factual statements, they do not need any "tone" applied to them. I'm not going to say "In my humble opinion, and you might see it differently, but I suggest that one plus one might be two." No way, no how.

The problem is that this, and the refusal to listen to and think through criticism is growing worse now. Much worse.

[–]censorshipment 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Fragility is on the rise along with mental illnesses. 👀

[–]MenAreFragileBabies 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, it's considered rude no matter what to criticize people it seems, though. Unless you apologize for it before and after, no criticism is allowed. We must be nice-- OR ELSE!

[–]Doorknob8 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Silly, considering there is no "tone" in a written message, specially if you don't know the person who is writing it.

[–]Camberian[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently the moment you do not grovel and self-deprecate you have a "tone".