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[–]lefterfield 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They are consistent in that at least they say "a trans man has a male brain so a trans man is a male, if someone has the brain of a tiger then they are a tiger and not a human"

No human is born with the brain of a tiger, though, and there are no tests on tigers to determine if they have tiger brains before we classify them as tigers. It's a false analogy fallacy. The question to ask is how do we classify organisms by sex: By analyzing their chromosomes, sexual organs, and primary and secondary sexual characteristics. Never by doing brain studies. Whether or not all males have male brains and all females have female brains is irrelevant to the question of whether that male-brained person has a penis. If so(or it can be otherwise determined biologically), he's a male.

[–]AllInOne[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, but the TQs go from "a trans man has a male brain in the female body and a trans woman has a female brain in the male body" to "a trans man is a female in the wrong body so surgeries should be done to change the body to fit the male brain", etc, to that I don't know what to say and how to argue against it. Do you know how to do that?

Also, how to argue again this; "a brain is a sex organ like the penis, vagina, etc so the brain determines sex"

[–]lefterfield 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I mean... the brain is not a sex organ. I can only assume they get that from the idea that sexuality is determined somehow by the brain? It's really hard to argue with people who state blatant lies and want you to prove them false. All I can say is to ask them how we determine the sex of animals, or plants, or insects. None of those creatures have the language to declare their sex, but we can still confidently classify them as male or female.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, they call it a sex organ because without the brain the reproductive system wouldn't work, so it's a sex organ itself.

I asked once if the brain is also a respiratory organ given that lungs wouldn't work without it either, and the answer was yes.

I tried to explain that this isn't how systems are classified, and that by that logic blood is also a sex organ because without it reproductive systems would not work, but I didn't receive an answer.

[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, that's just nonsense. I don't think you can argue with ideologues.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I thought it was because it’s the brain that triggers orgasm so that’s why it’s called a sex organ.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This would make more sense than the crap I have read on the matter, to be honest.

But no, whenever I had this conversation it was all about the fact that the brain controls the reproductive system, or that the brain is the most important thing in our bodies given that it contains our sexual identity (not for, you know, all the stuff it does, just because it's a lady or gent brain) and as such it was the most important sex organ we have screw genitals and gonads!

[–]ImPiqued1111111 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If that was the case, how are they measuring it? Are they doing brain scans to diagnose someone as a trans woman?