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Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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I was really just trying to get at the fact that I'm seeing so many people quick to point the finger at his mother.

Why can't I find any statistics on how many women have been murdered in 2020? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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I agree with you about NYT. They're garbage. Good caveat.

Why can't I find any statistics on how many women have been murdered in 2020? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Thank you so so much for this detailed breakdown.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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This world hates women.

Yeah. :(

Why can't I find any statistics on how many women have been murdered in 2020? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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3 a day...I don't have words.

Why can't I find any statistics on how many women have been murdered in 2020? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Ok, that would make sense.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Snort.

Why can't I find any statistics on how many women have been murdered in 2020? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Yep, I was getting that, and most of the results on the first page were about transwomen. And I really can't seem to actually find the statistics on women murdered this year. It's possible my searching skills suck, but I don't think it should be that hard to find.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Good point!

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Yeah, I'm pretty disturbed, and it also completely misses the point of why I created this thread, which I have reiterated.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Newp.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Oh, these are men, huh? Figures.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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If you can't discern the difference between a white supremacist showing up to a BLM protest with a military style assault rifle and one of the three victims having a hangun, I don't know what to tell you.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Mass shooting is defined as three or more.

He was not defending himself, come on.

Why can't I find any statistics on how many women have been murdered in 2020?

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Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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I will say that it's fully depressing that the men on "both sides" are all violent males.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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I think part of the argument is that he's a minor? Again, I don't have a full understanding of the legalities. I'm more concerned with the public reaction, it sort of feels like people are foaming at the mouth to point the finger at a woman, like an overcompensation or something.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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I read today that the first man he killed was shot in the back.

Also, I'm not really giving the benefit of the doubt that a man ideologically opposed to the protests showed up there with an assault weapon. Was he really there not looking to start some shit?

Lastly, I agree that the men who were shot were trash for the reasons you mentioned, but Rittenhouse had no way of knowing that about them.

All of that said, as I mentioned, my take on what actually took place isn't based on a detailed understanding. The point I'm getting at is the volume of blame directed at the mother.

Kyle Rittenhouse's mother

by ImPiqued1111111 to /s/GenderCritical from (self.GenderCritical)

The Democratic National Convention on Tuesday featured a panelist who identifies as a “nonbinary/gender transcendent mermaid Queen-King” by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I wanna see the tail.

What do you do when there are trans women you actually like? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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This is great advice, thanks. I tend to be on the harsher side of the critique, but I've been dealing with this nagging cognitive dissonance about actually, well, caring about individual people. Comments like this and others are helping me to snap out of that.

What do you do when there are trans women you actually like? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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How precisely am I supposed to have an private conversation about any of this, when I don't really know anyone GC in my real life, and who might be experiencing something similar?

You don't like this topic, you don't have to read it. I don't recall telling you what to post.

What do you do when there are trans women you actually like? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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Ah, this is a really good point. There are men in my life I like also, and I can separate that from how I think of men as a class. Even though that can be something of a struggle too, at times.

This shouldn't really be any different. Thanks for framing it like this.

What do you do when there are trans women you actually like? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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There's nothing here I disagree with. I actually made a thread on the reddit board about what you discussed about the AIDS crisis. Anyway, you've given me a lot to think about.

(Also you're right, Peter/Marilyn Robinson was a looker!)

What do you do when there are trans women you actually like? by ImPiqued1111111 in GenderCritical

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This is a really good point, both about letting off steam, and about the fact that there are plenty of reasonable trans voices out there. Thanks for the reminder.

What do you do when there are trans women you actually like?

by ImPiqued1111111 to /s/GenderCritical from (self.GenderCritical)

I shaved my head, I'm not a woman anymore! by Beth-BR in GenderCritical

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I have short hair, a pixie cut. For me personally, I style it feminine, I think it looks feminine on me, and I generally dress pretty feminine.

I hate this idea that short hair is associated with masculinity. I think a short haircut looks really pretty on me. That's not to say that it's not GNC for others. But it doesn't make me GNC.

Now there's a whole other question of the merits of appearing feminine, but honestly, it's just what I prefer and I find dresses much more comfortable than pants anyway.

UTI help requires my gender identity? by our_team_is_winning in GenderCritical

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Male and female aren't genders nor gender identities. How stupid.

All these "queer" sources are predominantly for trans people by Agodachi in GenderCritical

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It seems like a compulsion to always have to castigate one group or another about how they're doing it wrong.

All these "queer" sources are predominantly for trans people by Agodachi in GenderCritical

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Agreed it's all completely ridiculous.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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You're very welcome.

The Still-Misunderstood Shape of the Clitoris - just to show how even biological women have not been told about their bodies, but now TiM's claim ownership over it with literal ballsacks. by vitunrotta in GenderCritical

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Awhile back, maybe last year, I got into an argument with a trans person on GCDebatesQT. The person was trying to make the argument that the head of the penis is analogous to the clitoris. I said, no, it isn't. And he kept trying to argue that I was ignorant to anatomy. So I asked, do you even know what a clitoris looks like? He said, of course I do. So I said, describe it to me. He kept dodging, acting like he was above it, of course I know what it looks like, how dare you.

Finally he did describe to me what he thought a clitoris looks like. He said it looks like a little button that is located in between the upper part of the inner labia or something like that. When I said, WRONG, and showed him an anatomical diagram of a clitoris, he got testy (testes?).

On a different note, about a year or two ago, I tried to find an anatomical diagram showing the internal clitoris showing the cross-sectional relational position to the vagina, since I had a theory about why orgasms feel the way they do. I couldn't find one though.

I also want to find an anatomical diagram that shows the internal clitoris's relational position to the pudendal nerve. No luck there either.

All these "queer" sources are predominantly for trans people by Agodachi in GenderCritical

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I've been spending some time reading LGBDropTheT (they are a lovely group), and it's been noted that the subreddit AskGayBros has been peaking recently. Apparently with all the gender critical/terfy/etc. subs banned, the T have been targeting that sub.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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These are all really good points, and much to digest and think about. I'm going to keep these things in mind as I see these references in the media, and take note.

As to your question about propaganda, or an organized effort, have you read this article? It's not specific to the word "queer", but it goes into detail about some of the moneyed sources behind the current "LGBTQ", and specifically, trans movement. It is a very long article, but well worth a read. And I think touches on what you're getting at.

https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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and in big media this therm is actively used to remove gay, lesbian and bisexuals from mentioning

No kidding. This is something I was completely unaware of. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, and I will keep an eye out for this.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Haha. It's a tossup for me these days (hate "cis").

How “Cancel Culture” Repeatedly Emerged in My Attempt to Make a Film About Tennis Legend Martina Navratilova by quickbeam in LGBDropTheT

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Thanks for taking the time to read my comment! Appreciated. :)

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Thanks for giving me the chance to unload.

You're very welcome.

You have an outstanding way with words, and I'm going to read your post multiple times. You have made such great points, I don't even know how to sufficiently respond. This is so astute:

But embracing an insult is like adding zero to a whole number: The sum total doesn't change.

I've also once read a comment that there is so much conflicting logic within the trans community that it doesn't compute, like trying to divide by zero.

Your acquaintance also frames this question in a way I had never considered, thank you for that.

Thanks so much for giving me a lot to think about!

Teaching women to be afraid hurts women by squintypreyeyes in GenderCritical

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Good point!

Teaching women to be afraid hurts women by squintypreyeyes in GenderCritical

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Ah, I didn't know that about Jewish survivors. I definitely have no objection to usage of that terminology around that. Not for me to do so.

I was more talking about sexual assault and domestic violence, which I think somewhere during the 90s, the language around that began to change. If I remember correctly, the idea was about empowerment, but I think it takes away emphasis from the perpetrator and places too much responsibility on the victim (or survivor if you prefer).

Are male and female sexuality that stereotypically different? by Mencantbewomen in GenderCritical

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Oh yep, that's what I meant, the band couldn't be heard because the screaming drowned them out!

To his dying day, my father often humorously remarked that writing out a check to secure those Shea Stadium Beatles tickets in 1965 might not have been in his best interests because that concert seemed to unleash forces that caused all his daughters and other girls in the nabe and his workplace to become bra burners and ball busters!

LOL!

TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men by weirdthorn in GenderCritical

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Exactly! I've seen this same argument lobbed at straight women (which I am one). It's like...no, part of the enjoyment of PIV is the mutual pleasure aspect of it. That we're both feeling sensations at the same time from this one act. It's not close to the same thing as a man sticking a dildo in me. I can do that myself.

I don't know if I'm articulating this very well, hopefully you know what I mean.

Are male and female sexuality that stereotypically different? by Mencantbewomen in GenderCritical

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I was a prepubescent kid at their famous Shea Stadium concert

Off topic, but I am sooooooo jealous! My understanding is that you could hardly hear anything, but still.

Teaching women to be afraid hurts women by squintypreyeyes in GenderCritical

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Somewhat related, I've mentioned before on the old sub that I don't like the language of "survivor" in place of "victim". The insinuation is that it's shameful to say actually, somebody did something to me. When in reality, I have no choice but to try to keep surviving, but it doesn't mean I'm doing ok, it doesn't mean I'm strong, and I don't need to wear "survivor" as a badge of honor when I'm just struggling to get up in the morning and brush my teeth.

It it makes someone feel better to term themselves a survivor after a traumatic event, I won't begrudge them. But I really dislike the shift towards it seeming like a requirement, otherwise you're branded as an inferior poor-me attention grabber who's wallowing in it.

TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men by weirdthorn in GenderCritical

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Wowww...I just read that TIFs post. She claims to be a gay man, and said that if she went to a gay orgy looking for PIV sex, some men wouldn't be interested.

I...

TIF whining because gay men behave like gay men by weirdthorn in GenderCritical

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I have some sympathy because I feel like TIFs tend to pass more than TIMs. So if she was clocked at this party before she undressed, she is really not passing at all. Her friend invited her, and when she wasn't sure, her friend insisted it would be fine and the party would be "inclusive". And then when it wasn't fine for her at all, he insisted she stay. This whole thing obviously really messed with her head, and her friend never should have put her in this position.

I tend to have a bit more sympathy for young TIFs, for all the reasons outlined by Shrier. They're a vulnerable group.

It was definitely inappropriate for her to be there, but I sort of feel like she was conned into it.

TiM switches to "boymode" to access male privilege. Cause you know, they're just sooo much more oppressed than actual women are. I wish I could opt out of womanhood whenever some sexist douche discriminated against me! by _UngodlyFruit_ in GenderCritical

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This makes me unspeakably angry.

TRAs were angry when r/gendercritical existed. Now they're mad s/gendercritical exists. It's almost like banning subs doesn't delete people from existence by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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This is so ironic because they regularly claim that if we don't agree that transwomen are women, we're denying they exist.

Which, as a side note, is a ludicrous argument because by extension what this argument says is that men don't exist.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Hello. The people here have been so welcoming. I was already on team LGBDropTheT (have donated to LGB Alliance etc.) but I have even more appreciation with how much kindness that has been extended by this community.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Wow, thanks so much for taking the time to lay all of this out. This all makes so much sense to me, and you've articulated some things I've sort of intuited, but wasn't really sure about, nor had I really been able to pinpoint exactly.

I especially appreciate your wording of "shapeless, flavorless gruel". So descriptive with so few words. And the notion of the word lesbian being "ugly", that's so insulting. You've made such great points.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Thanks. :) The people in this sub are so lovely.

"If I tell you you're transphobic, then you are." This person seemed to be genuinely apologizing and it wasn't enough. Nothing is ever enough. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I don't know how old you are, but does anyone remember 80s punk culture? Like, none of these people made up new or different genders for themselves. They just styled themselves this way and did whatever they did. Sure it attracted attention, but nobody was demanding anyone alter their language.

https://i.imgur.com/puUpDTz.jpg

"If I tell you you're transphobic, then you are." This person seemed to be genuinely apologizing and it wasn't enough. Nothing is ever enough. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Except I've been seeing a whole lot of "non-binary trans man" and stuff like that lately. Like, how does that work? I thought the whole point of non-binary was...ugh never mind I'm not gonna try to suss this out.

"If I tell you you're transphobic, then you are." This person seemed to be genuinely apologizing and it wasn't enough. Nothing is ever enough. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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I made the mistake of looking at the twitter account. This Arianna person is repeatedly self-flagellating, and this Laney and one other person just keep bullying her and saying "you're cis, you have no right to an opinion". Like, they're just being cruel to this poor girl who is legitimately trying to be nice.

Question: Is there evidence that there is no such a thing as a male brain or a female brain? by AllInOne in GenderCritical

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If that was the case, how are they measuring it? Are they doing brain scans to diagnose someone as a trans woman?

Joe Rogan's latest podcast interview--with Abigail Shrier, author of Irreversible Damage by Lilith_Fair in GenderCritical

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No kidding? I watched the JRE clips on Youtube, none of that was in there. I'm gonna check that out.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Ha!

I am so much more wary of men when I am alone/not with my male partner. by emissch in GenderCritical

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Have you read The Gift of Fear? It's a good thing to have your guard up. Don't let people guilt you.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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I agree, from someone on the outside looking in, it seems to have been appropriated by attention-seekers and it doesn't seem cool at all. Ugh.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Thanks for answering, this is what I would have guessed. It really sucks this has happened. I'm so sorry.

Why are teenage girls afraid to become women? A new book explains their flight from biological reality by fijupanda in GenderCritical

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I watched some snippets of Joe Rogan interviewing Abigail Shrier about the book today. I know Joe Rogan's not that popular, but Shrier got her points across really well and compassionately, and to a wide audience. I really enjoyed the interview.

Boxer Ceiling was axed. by Lilith_Fair in GenderCritical

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I had seen awhile back that it had gotten banned from facebook. Terrible.

When someone says trans women are women, use this. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Ok, thanks for clarifying that. Fingers crossed for her. She has always had an air of a self assured child.

Is the TRA "Karen" meme antiwoman? by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Meghan Murphy claims that "Karen" originated from a man on reddit who was complaining about his ex-wife regarding a custody battle. Her name was actually Karen. I haven't seen that anywhere else.

I've also commonly seen the assertion that "Karen" originated as a meme to describe racist white women who call the police on Black women.

I had thought that it was an extension to the "I need to see your manager" meme with that particular hairstyle, and later the name "Karen" was attached to that meme.

I'm still unsure which is factually correct.

Whatever the answer, I think it has evolved into something really misogynist that functions to silence and humiliate middle aged and older white women.

When someone says trans women are women, use this. by [deleted] in GenderCritical

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Didn't Shiloh want to be called John for awhile? I can't remember if that was indulged, but I thought it was.

Farewell, GCdebatesQT by DogeWalker in GenderCritical

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Hi!

I actually liked that sub a lot. I didn't spend too much time on it, but when I thought to drop by it was sort of satisfying in a way to actually confront (in a polite way) the TQ directly in a way that's normally not possible.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Yes, I remember the LGB movement as wanting to gain acceptance. Sure, there were individuals who preferred to stand out more than others, but still it was about living their lives as they are. Nothing like what I see happening nowadays. Where the QT seems to be almost purposely trying to be abrasive and confrontational (do they realize they're doing this?) and steamroll other groups. I wonder if that phenomenon is related to taking on a slur as an encompassing identifier.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Yes, I've also gotten the impression it gives people an avenue to horn their way into your community, in this nebulous way. That must be so frustrating. It's colonization. And especially after so much history of oppression and having to fight against it just to be accepted, now having people treating the community like a party to be crashed, must be...I don't know. Bizarre.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Agreed with both points!

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Thank you! I'm delighted to be here.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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You know, another thing I thought of after posting this...a FB friend of mine recently mentioned that she is "queer". This doesn't really provide any meaningful information. She's female and presents as stereotypically feminine. So she could be a lesbian, or bi, or identify as non-binary, or a pre-transition trans man even? (Shes relatively young.) Or maybe even one of these yahoos that thinks being poly means they are part of the LGBTQ+++ community. I, of course, am not entitled to that information about her. But then what's the point of mentioning it?

Beyond my original question of whether or not it's offensive, or in poor taste, it just seems like a meaningless term in today's climate.

I might also be misinformed.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Ok thanks! I'm definitely open to being wrong on this, so I'm interested in different perspectives.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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The more straight people asking genuine questions here, the better.

I appreciate this! Learning different perspectives is really helpful. Thanks for your reply. :)

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Thanks for your perspective!

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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I don't see a problem with asking questions and allies are good to have in my opinion.

Thanks for this, I appreciate it.

The rest of what you've said is similar to the kneejerk reaction I have when I see/hear it. But, it doesn't directly affect me, so it feels a bit off to even have a reaction at all. It just looks offensive and I can't help but recoil. As someone with no stake in it though, it's good to learn how those affected feel about it. Thanks for sharing.

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Thanks for answering! You're refreshing. :)

The "Q" word? by ImPiqued1111111 in LGBDropTheT

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Most of what you describe has been my impression of things, but I wasn't aware of Queer Nation. I will look that up.

I also didn't know that about Pollyanna, lol!

Thanks so much for your response.

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How “Cancel Culture” Repeatedly Emerged in My Attempt to Make a Film About Tennis Legend Martina Navratilova by quickbeam in LGBDropTheT

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Hi there. I have a bit of a different take. I'm very familiar with Greenwald's work. I believe based on the tone of the article and his careful choice of words that he agrees with Martina.

He takes pains throughout the article to paint her as an admirable figure. He demonstrates how appalling TRAs behave. He shows what an asshole MacKinnon is, and how respectful Martina was in that exchange.

As for the issue of how he handles trans women in sports itself. Greenwald is an honest, factual journalist. He's legendary, as well as a lefty. Also in the LGBT community. He's not quite in a position to come right out and agree with her on this or he'll be canceled out of existence. Instead what he did is walked a fine line. He said he believes his intentions were good, that she wants to uphold the institution of women's sports that she worked so hard to build up (true). He throws a few bones to the TRAs that he KNOWS are rabid and says maybe she's misinformed (not necessarily inaccurate from a factual perspective, he's not a mind-reader). And then ultimately says I don't personally understand the science enough to ultimately make my own judgment on this matter (so not actually disagreeing with her). Which, he can get away with because he's not a science reporter. And he can eke by without enraging the TRAs, while also indicating to his sane readers that he doesn't necessarily buy into all of that.

When you take this all together with the overall tone of the article, I'm going to read between the lines and infer that he actually is Team Martina on this, and very cleverly gets this across while toeing the line enough. Or, at the very least, has constructed the article in just such a way to present this issue to a wider lefty audience where Greenwald is highly respected to show them the madness that is really going on in the trans/TRA community. If you take a look at the comments, people are peaking hard.

*New to Saidit, longtime lurker on reddit, hope I'm welcome here.